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14454 Postings, 7671 Tage inmotionForecast 2013

 
  
    #2826
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09.04.13 06:14
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/...03aqnTG~yDO0i4AIzdA.html?cmpid=yhoo

April 8 (Bloomberg) -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac may send the Treasury Department enough money in June to extend by a month government operations under the debt ceiling, giving Republicans and Democrats more time to hammer out solutions to the nation’s finances. Su Keenan reports on Bloomberg Television's "Money Moves." (Source: Bloomberg)

Chance the Rules is the Key, so Hedge Fonds Manager.  

531 Postings, 4777 Tage kwhistlerzur info

 
  
    #2827
3
09.04.13 08:11
Guten Morgen aus Wiesbaden


Hedge Funds Wagering on Fannie Reincarnation: Mortgages
By Katherine Burton, Zeke Faux & Jody Shenn - Apr 8, 2013 11:07 PM GMT+0200
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Investors including hedge funds are buying the preferred stock of government-controlled mortgage firms Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in a long-shot bet they will have a future as private companies.
Fannie Mae (FNMA)’s 8.25 percent of preferred shares have more than doubled this year after the company reported record earnings. Some investors see the odds rising the two loan guarantors may somehow return to private ownership without cutting out existing investors, according to Bose George, an analyst at Keefe Bruyette & Woods in New York. The securities have a par value of $25, meaning investors could recoup more than five times the current price of $4.26.
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Washington-based Fannie Mae buys mortgages from lenders and packages them into securities on which they guarantee payments of principal and interest. Photographer: Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg
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April 3 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Representative Scott Garrett, a Republican from New Jersey and chairman of the House Financial Services Subcommittee on Capital Markets and Government-Sponsored Enterprises, talks about the outlook for the housing market and his proposal to wind down Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac without disrupting the market. Garrett, speaking with Erik Schatzker and Scarlet Fu on Bloomberg Television's "Market Makers," also discusses the potential imposition of legal restrictions on banks deemed too big to fail. (Source: Bloomberg)
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“The idea is eventually, as these companies have paid back their debt to the government, they could potentially be turned back on,” George said. “From our perspective, you can only make an argument for this if you think the government’s going to change the rules somehow to benefit the preferred shareholders.”
The gains come after the U.S. Treasury Department changed the terms of the enterprises’ bailout last year to force them to turn over profits to the government. The agreement provides no mechanism for them to repay the $187.5 billion they owe the government from their 2008 bailout, a prerequisite to a change in their status.
Millstein Plan
Jim Millstein, the U.S. Treasury Department’s former chief restructuring officer, who’s been putting forward a plan to privatize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, said his firm Millstein & Co. has been receiving more calls about the overhaul from investment managers and policy groups in the past month after the mortgage companies reported improved earnings and a Senate proposal limiting outside use of their increased income.
“It’s premised on a turnaround in Fannie and Freddie’s results and a financial restructuring that enables” them to fully pay back the government, Millstein said. “That now looks like less of a long shot after record earnings at Fannie Mae,” said Millstein, who owns preferred shares in the firms.
“The real question is whether policy makers will use the opportunity of these improved results to restructure Fannie and Freddie, reform the government’s role as a guarantor of housing finance and end the conservatorships,” he said. “Our plan is at least one way to get that done without wrecking the recovery underway in the housing market.”
Bass Wagers
The recent jump in the preferred shares is a long overdue boost for some investors who first started dabbling in the investment several years ago. Kyle Bass, whose Dallas-based hedge fund Hayman Advisors LP made $500 million in 2007 betting against U.S. subprime mortgages, said at a conference in Las Vegas in May 2011 that buying the preferred shares “could be an eight to 10-bagger from here.” At the time, the securities were trading at $2.40. A little more than a year later he told website TheStreet.com that he’d exited the trade because Republicans and Democrats wanted to kill Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Bass didn’t return calls for comment.
Jeffrey Bernardo, chief executive officer of Augustine Asset Management, said his firm started buying Fannie Mae preferred securities a few years ago, when they were trading for less than a dollar and were priced like an option.
“The turn in the housing market has helped Fannie generate profits again,” said Bernardo, whose Jacksonville, Florida- based firm oversees $275 million. “One might think there is a future profit stream.”
Washington-based Fannie Mae and McLean, Virginia-based Freddie Mac buy mortgages from lenders and package them into securities on which they guarantee payments of principal and interest. Since they were taken into conservatorship in 2008, the two companies have drawn $187.5 billion from Treasury and have sent back $65.2 billion in dividends, which count as a return on the government’s investment and not as a repayment.
Congressional Approval
A group of lawmakers including Massachusetts Democrat Elizabeth Warren, and Senator David Vitter, a Louisiana Republican, on March 14 introduced a bill that would ensure Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac couldn’t emerge from government control even if they end up paying more to the Treasury than they took in aid. The measure would ban sales of senior-ranking U.S. Treasury-owned preferred shares without Congressional approval and includes a provision blocking the use of fee increases at the enterprises to fund other government spending, moves some investors view as protecting the preferred shares.
The securities jumped last week after Fannie Mae said April 2 it had net income of $17.2 billion for 2012, compared with a loss of $16.9 billion in 2011. Freddie Mac reported in February that it earned $11 billion in 2012, compared with a loss of $5.3 billion in 2011. They fell 1.2 percent as of 3:59 p.m. in New York to $4.26. They’re up from $1.67 since the end of 2012.
‘Total Casino’
Holders of Fannie Mae’s common stock, who would be last in line to recover money in a bankruptcy or so-called receivership, have seen the shares more than triple this year to 90 cents, giving the company a market capitalization of about $5 billion, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Freddie Mac shares have more than tripled to 86 cents since December.
Users on Investors Hub, an Internet message board popular with day traders, have been talking up the Fannie Mae shares since the earnings release.
“On the common stock side, I think it’s a total casino,” George said. “It’s not very rational.”
Raise Capital
Before any privatization, the companies would need to raise “a great deal” of capital along with repaying the government, Ralph Axel, a Bank of America Corp. analyst, wrote in a March 15 report. New shares would dilute existing holders and the Treasury sweeps of their profits will keep their net worth at no more than $3 billion, a figure that will fall to zero over time. Fannie Mae said in its annual report it owns or guarantees $3.1 trillion of debt.
Regulators who took Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into conservatorship in 2008 didn’t create an avenue for them to regain independence. President Barack Obama and Democrats and Republicans in Congress have pledged to wind down and replace the two companies instead.
About half of small and regional banks who held Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac preferred shares when they were taken into conservatorships still own them, said Paul Merski, chief economist at the Independent Community Bankers of America. More than 600 U.S. depository institutions suffered at least $8 billion of investment losses, after the lenders ended up as large holders in the stock because of its favorable regulatory treatment, according to a paper last year by Federal Reserve researchers.
Their advocacy for the assets to retain value in any restructuring of the U.S. mortgage-finance system may help hedge funds in Washington. “The community banks have good standing and reputation with policy makers,” Merski said. “They didn’t contribute to the financial meltdown.”
‘Zero Support’
Ed Mills, an analyst at FBR Capital Markets said there’s “zero support” among politicians to have the government- sponsored enterprises come back to life and that the firms’ profitability will face further challenges as they’re forced to shrink. Investors have still been calling him more often about the trade over the past few weeks.
“There’s a lot of momentum behind this,” said Mills, adding he’s spent about 20 hours on the phone discussing it. “Ultimately, as GSE reform is completed, in that bill, the chance that nothing is given to the shareholders is high.”
To contact the reporters on this story: Zeke Faux in New York at zfaux@bloomberg.net; Katherine Burton in New York at kburton@bloomberg.net; Jody Shenn in New York at jshenn@bloomberg.net
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Rob Urban at robprag@bloomberg.net  

14454 Postings, 7671 Tage inmotionForecast

 
  
    #2828
09.04.13 08:44
Schaut Euch einmal das Video an.

Das geben Hedgefonds ein Ziel für Ende 2013 an wenn US Gouverment mitspielt.

Natürlich mit viel Fantasie aber wer weis.....

Good Luck  

4292 Postings, 5153 Tage kuronaja

 
  
    #2829
1
09.04.13 11:07
da stellt sich die frage in wie weit diese Fonds schon investiert sind...

ob sie schon sammeln....sammeln werden fragen über fragen...

aber die Aussicht ist schon sehr verlockend..  

48 Postings, 4299 Tage Haguhanstanzen sie schon??

 
  
    #2830
09.04.13 11:29

tanzen sie schon, fragte der blinde musiker seinen gehörlosen kollegen....ja spielen wir denn schon,

fragte der zurück.

ähnlich kommt es mir mit unserer fannie vor.

die einen sagen, die commons sind wertlos und lachen. die anderen sagen wiederum, the commons have plenty of value.

 

2760 Postings, 5030 Tage AlmanGibt es eine neue Blase

 
  
    #2831
09.04.13 13:20
am amerikanischen Häusermarkt? Ein Blick auf den Case Shiller Index liefert die Antwort.

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/finanzen/fonds-mehr/...markt-12141845.html  

14454 Postings, 7671 Tage inmotionFNMA first quarter 2013

 
  
    #2832
09.04.13 13:39
FNMA first quarter profit will be minimum 58.9 BILLION DOLLARS BLOOMBERG news confirmed again.

ALSO THE COMPANY SAID on their annual report, 10k, they will post 58.9 billion dollars deferred tax asset as unusual gains.

Remember FNMA charged from Bank of America 11.6 billion dollars on January 07, 2013.  

148 Postings, 8863 Tage DIANAund

 
  
    #2833
09.04.13 15:14
Heute die 91,5 $  

14454 Postings, 7671 Tage inmotionDiana

 
  
    #2834
09.04.13 15:31
Bei 91,5 $ siehst Du mich 5 Minuten später im Urlaub auf Lebenszeit  

567 Postings, 4264 Tage Thomianerding ding ding

 
  
    #2835
09.04.13 15:32
Auf gehts zur nächsten Runde.

Hoffe es geht heute mal nachhaltig nach oben und pendelt sich bei ~ 0,93 $  ein.  

148 Postings, 8863 Tage DIANAsorry 0,915 $

 
  
    #2836
1
09.04.13 15:35
mal wie es weiter geht hoffentlich langsamer nach oben die zocker sind weg wie es auschaut oder ?  

567 Postings, 4264 Tage ThomianerSchneller Start

 
  
    #2837
09.04.13 15:35
0,91 $ - überspringt einfach mal die 90er.

Weiter so, ohne Kamikaze-Bungee-Sprung nach unten wieder.  

148 Postings, 8863 Tage DIANAschöne

 
  
    #2838
09.04.13 15:38
wäres es wieder bei 1,05 $ nächte woche  

14454 Postings, 7671 Tage inmotionFanny

 
  
    #2839
09.04.13 15:50
Mir gefällt der langsame Anstieg, das zeigt Stärke.



Wenn das hier wirklich kommt sind wie einen großen Schritt weiter

FNMA first quarter profit will be minimum 58.9 BILLION DOLLARS BLOOMBERG news confirmed again.  

180 Postings, 4626 Tage DerMeisterallerKlasshabe leider kein Realtime bei der Nasdaq,

 
  
    #2840
09.04.13 15:56
hat jemand einen Link evtl. für uns.
Bitte keine Links mit 15 Minuten Verzögerung einfügen!
Vielen Dank!  

14454 Postings, 7671 Tage inmotionDerMeisterall

 
  
    #2842
09.04.13 15:59
Ich habe auch schon gesucht, und gelesen das es für Nas OTC Werte keine Realtime gibt.

Sollte es doch einen Link geben danke im Voraus  

180 Postings, 4626 Tage DerMeisterallerKlassbesten Dank an Koelnerschwa!

 
  
    #2843
09.04.13 16:03

442 Postings, 5610 Tage tobstaRT Link

 
  
    #2844
09.04.13 16:04

14454 Postings, 7671 Tage inmotionDanke

 
  
    #2845
09.04.13 16:06
für die Links...  

4348 Postings, 5133 Tage koelnerschwabegerne!

 
  
    #2846
09.04.13 16:16

2937 Postings, 4305 Tage KirroyalWir fahren wieder Achterbahn ...

 
  
    #2847
09.04.13 16:33

180 Postings, 4626 Tage DerMeisterallerKlassSieht so aus, als geht Fannie heute in die Knie!

 
  
    #2848
09.04.13 16:34

442 Postings, 5610 Tage tobsta...

 
  
    #2849
09.04.13 16:34

 wer war das ? ^^

 

531 Postings, 4777 Tage kwhistlerich

 
  
    #2850
09.04.13 16:52
nein, hatte meine heute gleich zu Anfang verkauft und habe jetzt 1000 mehr


;-)

....jetzt darf es bitte wieder hoch gehen!!!


Grüße aus Wiesbaden  

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