PRVH 935160 hab gerade meinen letzten kauf gemacht
Sind ja nur noch anderthalb Monate.
Wenn weiterhin News kommen (positive)würde ich sogar etwas mehr tippen als Du
Bin mal frech und sage 0,50-0,60 Euro
Laß uns dann mal Silvester noch mal sprechen.
Gruß DSM
aber für das Wochenende glaube ich wird sie eher nachgeben ( Wunschdenken ) - will ja wieder rein !!
Gruß
leo
Hoffe, daß all eure Kursziele eintreffen, dann geb ich einen aus,
VERSPROCHEN!!!!!!!!!!!
Anmeldung erwünscht, zwecks Personenzahl....
Bei Anmeldung gibts Adresse, O.K?
Machen wir mal 10000 zu 0,22??????
Müßen ja als Optimisten mit gutem Beispiel vorangehen, oder????
gruß Grenke
P.S dafür ist meine stückzahl aber( hin und wieder) größer Iol.
CEO Fahman hatte Recht aals er in dem Interview sagte, dass dieses Jahr noch einige
Projekte warten.
Den ersten haben wir heute in der PR gesehen, glaube nich das das dieses Jahr die letzte gewesen ist.
gruß Grenke
Hier lagen die ja richtig, aber jetzt siehts besser aus oder ?
24.10.2003
Providential Holdings halten
obb-online.de
Die Experten vom "Oberbayerischen Börsenbrief" empfehlen die Aktie von Providential Holdings (ISIN US7439231041/ WKN 935160) zu halten.
Providential Holdings sei eine in den Vereinigten Staaten ansässige Holdinggesellschaft, die sich über Tochtergesellschaften in verschiedenen Wirtschaftsbereichen engagiere. Dazu zähle neben ausgewählten Technologieunternehmen auch der Finanzsektor, wobei sich Providential Holdings dabei auch an Fusionen und Übernahmen in den USA und den Emerging Markets weltweit beteilige.
Langfristige Zielsetzung von Providential Holdings sei nach eigenen Angaben neben dem Listing an der Nasdaq in absehbarer Zeit, sich zu einer Art "Mini-GE" zu entwickeln. Verfahren werde dabei nach dem wiederkehrenden Prinzip, Marktnischen zu finden, sich darin zu positionieren und somit an den schnell wachsenden Märkten zu partizipieren.
Nachdem der Kurs nach der ersten signifikanten Pressemeldung einen Teil seiner Gewinne wieder abgegeben und bis Anfang Oktober auf 0,055 USD korrigiert habe, habe die Aktie während der beiden ersten Oktoberwochen erneut kräftig zugelegt und in der Spitze bis zu 100% gewonnen.
Profitieren können habe der Wert dabei von der Meldung, dass die 100%ige Tochter von Providential Holdings Inc. ATC Technology Corp. einen Großauftrag von Walmart (USA) erhalten habe. Inhalt des Abkommens sei der Verkauf des sogenannten Gamego, einem mobilen Videospiel, das zur Weihnachtszeit bei Walmart in den Läden stehe.
Nachdem die Aktie während der letzten Tage erneut korrigierte, sehen die Experten vom "Oberbayerischen Börsenbrief" aktuell wieder Luft bis in den Bereich des vorangegangenen Hochs bei 0,12 USD und empfehlen die Providential Holdings-Aktie deshalb zu halten. Der Stopp-Loss sollte auf den Einstandskurs gesetzt werden.
Es wird von den Experten vom "Oberbayerischen Börsenbrief" empfohlen, die Providential Holdings-Aktie mit einem Kursziel von 0,12 Euro zu halten.
November 20, 2003
Lately, there have been rumblings about the current state of Providential Holdings, Inc (OTCBB: PRVH), a company we first profiled on June 3, 2002. We understand that the Company is being hawked by touts in Europe, and that an Internet promoter called “The Stockbroker.com” has been distributing a press release heralding Providential’s latest revenues.
Does this mean Providential’s business finally is booming?
That could depend upon your point of view. For its part, Providential is saying that it had revenues of $4.44 million for the quarter ended September 30, 2003. But that may be a matter of interpretation. The calculation, which appears in the Company’s non-audited financial statements, is based solely upon the Company’s valuation of shares that it owns in a thinly traded over-the-counter company called Lexor Holdings, Inc.
Is that number realistic? Does it suggest that Providential has turned the corner toward profitability – or its precursor, operating income? Will auditors support Providential’s valuation of the Lexor shares – or arrive at a far more conservative interpretation of their worth?
Promises, Promises ......lest es selber!
What trend? Let’s be clear here. For the three months ended September 30, 2003, the Company had no revenues, aside from the Lexor common stock. How does that reflect a “positive” trend? Those investors in Europe and the United States who are being urged to jump aboard the Providential express might want to consider that before they buy a boarding pass.
http://www.stockpatrol.com/schlock/doghouse/providential2.html
durchgekaut denke ich und es is auch klar das PRVH´s Cashbestand nahe 0 tendiert.
Jedoch sollte man bevor man draufhaut auch mal die andere Seite der Medaille
betrachten, denn die Frage in deinem Thread "is Providentials business finally booming?"
kann ich nur mit ja beantworten, wenn ich mir die News der letzten Wochen anschaue
als da wären:
1)Verträge mit Wal-Mart Usa/Kanada für Gamego-Verkauf (umsatzgarantierender Vertrag)
2)Vertrage mit Xoceco (chin.Elektrohersteller, umsatzgarantierender Vertrag
mit jährlich ca.15-20 Mio$ Umsatz für PRVH)
3)Die geplante Aquisition der Irvine Medical School (umsatzgarantierend)
4)Die Beteiligungen/Kooperationen mit Nettel (ebenfalls von Stockbroker empfohlen)
Lexor dazu Touchlink...
Und das sind alles reale Firmen, keine Scheinfirmen, an der Börse gelistet und Nettel
z.B mit nem Kursgewinn von über 500% in den letzten Monaten.
Du kannst also nich sagen das PRVH fundamentaler Müll ist, du mußt alles in
Betracht ziehen und nich nur die Q-Zahlen.
Gruß
When we first wrote about Providential in June 2002, the Company had no revenues, no assets, and no operating business. See Providential Holdings, Inc. – Holding What? The Company’s business, or at least the business it hoped to develop, was based upon a number of vaguely described relationships with other companies, including some that were centered in Vietnam.
Virtually all of those ventures failed to develop, or were subsequently abandoned. For example, Providential claimed to have signed an agreement in March 2001 with the International Center for Training and Consulting (ICTC), “an organization under the Ministry of Trade of Vietnam that promotes economics, trade, investment and training activities between Vietnam and foreign organizations.” While the Company initially said that ICTC had introduced several potential ventures, it now concedes that no projects have been completed or are in progress.
Ditto for claims that Providential planned to work with Chu Lai Industrial Zone (CLIZ) Authority, of Vietnam, to develop an industrial and export processing zone, upgrade a paper mill, and implement two to five investment projects in by the end of 2002. As of September 30, 2003, Providential had not assisted in funding that project.
The list of abandoned projects and failed plans goes on. At the time of our initial profile, Providential was trumpeting Manna Technologies, a joint venture to manufacture LCD’s in Vietnam with someone named Mimi Ban. No plants were established, and the joint venture was abandoned in May 2003.
In a similar vein, an agreement for Providential to acquire control of a barely existent company called SlimTech, Inc. also fizzled, and was cancelled in May 2003. Plans to set up Providential Advisory Services as a financial advisor also fell by the wayside, as did the Company’s line of credit arrangement with something called Mercator Group.
Other ventures, although not abandoned, have failed so far to generate revenues. Yet, despite these failures, Providential has continued to announce new projects with the same abundant optimism. On April 3, 2003 the Company declared its entry into the homeland security business, issuing a press release that described plans to acquire control of Real ID Corporation, a Korean company that marketed bio-encryption and bio-authentication products. Providential suggested that it now would become a “leading hardware and software supplier for airport, corporate and homeland security.” So far, there is no indication that this project has generated any revenues.
One week later, on April 10, 2003, Providential announced that its subsidiary, Nettel Global Communications, was about to receive a purchase order totaling $5.53 million a month, over a twelve month period, for pre-paid calling cards and PINs..
Along these same lines, on September 2, 2003, the Company said it had launched a new division, Touchlink Communications Company, to provide prepaid calling cards and related services. According to subsequent press releases, Touchlink now has arranged to provide prepaid phone cards and other services to members of the Korean American Grocers Association, and to purchase certain value-added telephone routing services from Providential’s subsidiary, Nettel.
And, most recently, there was Providential’s October 8th announcement that it had acquired ATC Technology, whose products include a video game system. Later in October, the Company issued pres releases stating that ATC had received “Christmas” orders for its product from Wal-Mart stores in the United States and Canada. The timing of those announcements seems odd, however, since most stores order, and inventory, their Christmas products well in advance of the holiday shopping season.
So far, there is no indication that these latest ventures have generated revenues for the Company.
So where did Providential get that $4.44 million dollars?
Valuing Lexor
That sum is based upon the purported value of 1.5 million shares of common stock that Providential received for providing consulting services in connection with a September 29, 2003 merger between Lexor International, Inc., a private company, and Western Silver-Lead Corp., an OTC Bulletin Board company that had $39 in the bank as of June 30, 2003. Western Silver is now called Lexor Holdings, Inc.
Interestingly, on September 26th – just three days before the merger – Western Silver registered 6.5 million shares of common stock for its “”2003 Employee Benefit Plan.” Western Silver did not say who received those shares.
The 1.5 million Lexor shares that Providential received for its consulting services constitute the basis for the Company’s claim to $4.44 million in revenues. How did the Company arrive at that value? So far, no financial statements have been filed indicating the historic revenues or current assets of Lexor International – the company that folded into the Western Silver shell. An 8-K filed on October 7th promises those financial reports before the end of November 2003.
In any event, Providential did not claim to base the $4.44 million value on the underlying financial strength of Lexor. Instead, it said simply that the stock had been valued at $2.90 a share.
Where did that number come from, and did it reflect a realistic, fair value for the Lexor stock? Between October 17, 2003 and October 31, 2003, immediately following announcement of the merger, Lexor stock flirted with prices that ranged as high as $3 per share. By November 7th the share price had slipped to $1.25.
But do either of those figures represent a fair value for Providential’s 1.5 million Lexor shares. Between October 15, 2003 and November 14, 2003, a total of 5,770 shares of Lexor common stock were reported as traded? Volume was insignificant, suggesting that any attempt to flood the market with a large number of Lexor shares would be likely to flood the market. Perhaps just as important, there is no indication that there would be a market for considerable volume – such as 1.5 million shares – at any price. In other words, is the market liquid enough to support any significant volume?
The $4.44 million revenue number is reflected in Providential’s most recent unaudited financial statements. Would auditors place such a lofty value on the thinly traded shares of a business that has yet to report its revenues?
Despite such questions about the share valuation, and the fact that these “revenues” represent a one time event, Providential’s Chairman and CEO Henry Fahman recently commented that “[t]he positive trend should continue in the coming quarters as the Company’s subsidiaries are generating additional revenues and new acquisitions are coming on stream.”
sie kann sehr gut Englisch.
Zockt lieber mit seriöseren Teilchen.
Dieses Ding ist zu heiss.
Ein User des Raging Bull-Forums hat von ATC-Chef Wong folgende Mail erhalten:
"We will have a formal PR on Monday. It is positive.
Due to the SEC rules, we cannot disclose the information to any
particular
share holder ahead of the others. Please wait until Monday.
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KeithWong
ATC Technology Corp
Auch Touchlink befindet sich in einem deutlich späteren Stadium als jene abgeblasenen Projekte.
Im übrigen kann ich nur auf die 15 %-Beteiligung an Nettel verweisen. Die haben Aufträge über jetzt schon 200 Mio jährlich beginnend ab dem Jahr 2004 bei einer voraussichtlich hohen Gewinnmarge - und haben einen Börsenwert von weniger als 15 Mio $!!
=> Das Geschäft von Holdings basiert nunmal auf dem Ergebnis der Töchter. Und in diesem Fall muss man eben die Geduld mitbringen, bis diese tatsächlich ihre Produkte auch herstellen und vermarkten können. Bei einigen ist dies nun der Fall - und entsprechend wird's nun auch zu Cash-wirksamen Umsätzen ab diesem Quartal kommen.