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555 Postings, 6478 Tage BOCandorraLindsay Semple und Sam Kauona...

 
  
    #17802
3
27.11.13 12:34
...geht es an den Kragen !  Berichte aus www.bougainville-copper.eu !

555 Postings, 6478 Tage BOCandorraDamit...

 
  
    #17803
27.11.13 12:47
...dürfte wohl bald Schluss mit lustig sein, Mr. Semple!

Interessant wird sein, wie der Morumbi Kurs heute reagieren wird!

1335 Postings, 6481 Tage Traderevil.....hoffentlich hat die.....

 
  
    #17804
27.11.13 13:15


...Administtration auch die power und den (langen *über den Tag hinaus*) Atem zu regulieren...... Endlich. ;-)))  

555 Postings, 6478 Tage BOCandorra...und noch eine Neuigkeit !

 
  
    #17805
4
27.11.13 18:57
Die Homepage der European Shareolders of Bougainville Copper (ESBC)

www.bougainville-copper.eu

hat heute ihren 100.000 sten Besucher zu verzeichnen gehabt!

Dank all denen, die die ESBC unterstützen!

Axel G. Sturm
Escaldes-Engordany, 17. November 2013

222 Postings, 5019 Tage Koud.heRoyal Canadian Mounted Police are on Bougainville

 
  
    #17806
27.11.13 21:39

468 Postings, 4975 Tage macoubaAusAID Mining Adviser Defends Rio Tinto Against Wa

 
  
    #17807
2
27.11.13 22:41

“Not Credible”: AusAID Mining Adviser Defends Rio Tinto Against War Crimes Allegations
by ramunickel
Across the region more and more communities are joining in condemnation of multinational companies that act with disregard and disdain for our environment and people. Rio Tinto is one company that is right at the top of the list. Despite frequent denials in the press, there is plenty of highly credible evidence that links the company to a range of war crimes on Bougainville.

At the forefront of debates on Rio Tinto’s complicity in war crimes, is Australian National University researcher, Anthony Regan – he also acts as legal advisor to the Autonomous Bougainville Government, paid for by AusAID. Regan is overseeing the drafting of legislation that could see Rio Tinto return to the island as early as next year.

To this day, Regan resolutely maintains that no “credible evidence” exists linking the company to war crimes on Bougainville; an opinion echoed by Bougainville Copper Limited’s (BCL) current Chairman, and Axel Sturm, the head of BCL’s European Shareholder group. Regan also argues existing estimations over the death toll on Bougainville are “fanciful” and should be revised down to 5,000 or less.

Opposing Regan’s controversial position is University of Ulster researcher, Kristian Lasslett. He has interviewed BCL’s management, and obtained a heap of internal company records, evidencing the allegations of complicity. Lasslett has also criticised Regan’s position on Rio Tinto, and has questioned the methodology Regan employed to claim that the military blockade – which was placed upon Bougainville in 1990 – may have produced health benefits that outweighed the deaths it caused.

Recently Regan and Lasslett went head to head on Facebook’s Bougainville Forum, this is what they said:

AusAID man, Anthony Regan
AusAID man, Anthony Regan

Regan Questions the Depth of Bougainville’s Suffering and Rio Tinto’s Alleged Complicity

"Kristian Lasslett is an intelligent researcher, who's done impressive research through interviews and locating and analysing records. He also has his own strong views, and expresses them vigorously. I support his right to do that."

"But in doing so, my own view is he at times misrepresents my views. As he knows, my comments - made 14 years ago, in 1999 - on deaths in Bougainville during the conflict that he often quotes, were in fact in part a response to a claim that more than 50,000 people had died, and dealt with the difficulty in accurately determining numbers of deaths in a particular category - that is, people whose deaths were caused or contributed to by the PNG blockade."

"While the blockade undoubtedly did cause or contribute to many deaths, one of the difficulties I had experienced when discussing how to assess numbers involved is that many people who lived under blockade advised me (beginning with Theodore Miriung in October 1994) that in many ways health for many people living under the blockade was better than before the conflict, due to a range of factors (better diet etc.). "

"As for the documents filed in the US case against BCL, yes, I've read them, yes I've spoken with some litigants. I've also interviewed a number of people who signed affidavits in the case, who told me how those affidavits were prepared. But it would not be fair to them to discuss those issues here. Its on the basis of that work (which I aim publish in due course) that I still believe that credible evidence is yet to emerge. Perhaps such evidence will emerge one day, but I'm yet to see it."

"But I believe my own views, based on the evidence available to me, and perhaps I'm being unfair to Kristian by suggesting he misrepresents me. Perhaps its just best to say we are both amongst the outsiders who are trying to better understand the complex history of Bougainville, one which neither of us experienced, and that we have some disagreements. And that's alright."

Lasslett Responds

Kristian Lasslett
UK based academic Kristian Lasslett

"Thank you Anthony for your measured and thoughtful response. And I agree we are indeed outsiders, who are just seeking a better understanding of a complex and wonderful part of the world to which we are both indebted. I apologise to others on the forum if we sound a little crass, two outsiders going on about something we did not directly experience.  But in ways I will explain, the matters we have discussed are not only intrinsically important, in a profound moral sense, but effect our democracies too. Indeed, the history of Bougainville is deeply entwined with the region and the world."

"Anthony, I am genuinely sorry to hear you remain unconvinced of BCL’s direct involvement in the military operations. The evidence is wide ranging, and readily available.  For example, you note my published work features interviews with key company personnel. Indeed it does, this includes Robert Cornelius (MD, BCL), Paul Quodling (MD previous to Cornelius), Ken Perry (General Manager, BCL), Steve Jopling (GM, BCL), Colin Evanson (GM, BCL), Douglas Fishburn (GM of Bougainville Copper Foundation), Ian Johnson (MD CRAE Minerals PNG), in addition their opposite numbers in the PNG government including Rabbie Namaliu (PM), Ted Diro (Deputy PM), Ben Sabumei (Defence Minister), Paul Bengo (Secretary PM’s Dept), Jerry Singirok (PNGDF), Lima Dotaona (PNGDF), John Toguata (RPNGC) … to name just a few."

"BCL’s logistic and strategic support for the military operation was acknowledged by a wide range of officials I interviewed - indeed I cant recall a single denial. And I have made the evidence available in easily accessible forums. As we know academic publications tend to be read by few."

"Here is a quote from one BCL Manager:

“The reality was, ‘we [PNGDF/RPNGC] can’t do our thing because we haven’t got vehicles’. So we’d give them vehicles. ‘Ah we haven’t got radios so we can’t communicate’. So we’d give them two way radios. ‘Ah we can’t support our men over here, we haven’t got enough provisions’. So we’d put them in the mess, we’d feed them in the mess, we’d provide them with accommodation. We did everything they asked of us to make their life more comfortable, and better able to manage through, with transport, communications, provisions, whatever, fuel. You know we gave them everything, because as a far as we saw it we were hoping that they were going to solve the situation, so we could start operating again. So we supported them every way we could”

"This acknowledgement was confirmed by numerous PNG government officials. For example, one senior official told me: “We relied heavily on some of the civilian facilities provided by the company. They did everything, I mean we spent lots and lots of money, to provide backup support services for the operation. But the defence force was not properly equipped at all”."

"The internal BCL records I have viewed (which include meeting minutes, internal memorandums and letters), and even put online, corroborate the oral testimony (these records feature in the US court case, and this was the documentary evidence I was referring to in the previous post, not the affidavits). Indeed, BCL was in weekly meetings with the PNGDF and members of Cabinet. You even had the MD of BCL suggesting preferred targets to the PM at a meeting on 13/7/1989, such as "Damien Damen the charismatic Cult Leader", and telling the government “security force offensives [are] ok and should continue” (this is recorded in BCL meeting minutes), this was after the PNGDF had bombarded villages with mortars and strafed them from the air."

"Indeed, a former ADF officer wrote: “The use of the mortar platoon on 10 July [1989] at night on Guava village was irresponsible and indefensible … Mortar rounds often fell indiscriminately, wounding civilians and terrorising the local population … The PNGDF’s use of white phosphorous rounds (WP) attracts particular condemnation. WP burns the skin and can drift well beyond target areas”."

"And as I have pointed out in my work. BCL officials were aware of the destructive ends to which this support was being put. They were informed of civilian deaths and mass village burnings. "

"Then we have the powerful civilian testimony - people witnessing troops arriving in their village in BCL trucks, burning homes, taking away the youth."

"To my mind, direct admissions from the most senior levels in BCL and the PNG state corroborated by a thick file of BCL internal records (meeting minutes, memorandums, letters), counts as credible. To my mind, the growing body of testimony provided by victims is credible. I have never relied on the affidavits, for the reasons you allude to, they are court documents designed for a specific purpose."

"But what pains me, in light of this evidence, is the impact denial has on the families who lost loved one, or who suffered displacement and property loss as a result of these actions; I have watched them shed tears, and each time BCL’s Chairman appears before the media denying their allegations, families have to endure further indignation. We would not allow a street offender to cheapen their victims, why should a large multinational be treated differently?"

"Thanks for your explanation re the death toll. Fair enough, I understand you felt the death toll had been inflated for political reasons (though my impression was you were trouble by a 20,000 estimation, not 50,000). At the same time it was never my intention to misrepresent you."

"That said, the suggestion that the deaths caused by the blockade may have been outweighed by the health benefits of the blockade, in my view remains extremely problematic (one can’t simply cancel out the counting of human life in such a fashion). You made this statement to a parliamentary inquiry, it was an official forum of national/international significance. Only the most rigorous and thoroughly researched factual statements should, in my view, have been adduced in evidence. The method employed to offset alive versus dead, simply would never make it through peer review. And when the denial of a crime’s significant human impact is at stake, even greater weight is on the scholar to make sure their evidence is adduced with utmost rigour (especially if one tells the international media that current death toll estimates on Bougainville are “fanciful”: http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s422294.htm and should be revised down to 5,000 or less)."

"Of course, I entirely accept you were attempting, in good faith, to challenge possible methodological flaws in existing counting methods. But given your expertise lie in constitutional law, it may have been stretching things a little to challenge the findings of Medecins Sans Frontieres, Amnesty International, Community Aid Abroad and Bougainville’s own courageous medical professionals, who kept to their best of the ability records of the suffering and elevated deaths."

"And it’s the human and moral gravity of your claim, made in a major national and international forums – including its impact on those who watched relatives suffer and die – which is the reason behind my critique, nothing more."

"These are important points of contention. But I in no way wish to appear disrespectful towards your scholarly record. It speaks for itself, both with respect to Bougainville and PNG more generally. And you have organised some remarkable interventions, such as Bougainville: Before the Conflict, the latter is one of the most rich textual testaments available to the cultural and historical vibrancy of Bougainville."

"We will have to agree to disagree on certain issues. But my point remains, the movement for accountability and justice – which is being spearheaded by many courageous Bougainvilleans, from all walks of life, along with some notable international actors – would benefit from your support, I hope in time it will come."

"Many I have spoken to on Bougainville who suffered terribly as a result of the company’s actions, are not greedy or opportunistic people. They simply want the dignity of truth – a simple and unqualified statement by Rio Tinto, acknowledging BCL's actions and apologising to those effected (and also from the Australian government). Untied efforts to repair the damage caused by these actions are also being called for; when I say untied I mean contributions to the island’s regeneration, without it being tied to the mine’s reopening, or indeed its expansion. They are separate issues. These are very elementary claims of justice that are enshrined in international law."

"And Anthony you are right I have strong views which I express vigorously, I make no apologies for that, it is supported by extensive, pain-staking research. If our companies and governments are committing crimes abroad, it is a citizen’s duty, particularly those in the privileged position to know about these crimes, to stand in solidarity with the victims no matter where they are, or who they are. If we fail our democracy is diminished, and their right to justice denied."  

15643 Postings, 6482 Tage nekroMomis

 
  
    #17808
2
28.11.13 10:28
   "The truth is that few Bougainvilleans have opposed BCL longer or harder than me," Momis responded in his paid newspaper statement this week. "When I became President, I explored other [non-BCL] possibilities for ... re-opening of Panguna. But the Panguna landowner communities said they wanted the "devil they knew" and not a "new devil".

   "So I respected their wishes. As a result the ABG is consulting them about how to handle possible negotiations."

Wer kann es den LO`s verdenken wenn es ihnen beim pokern um akzeptable Bedingungen auf  "die paar Monate" nicht ankommt?

Hoch anrechnen kann man ihnen  ihre direkte PRO BOC Entscheidung  

448 Postings, 6477 Tage bockaufbocVerflechtung judgement civelli semple

 
  
    #17809
2
28.11.13 11:42

555 Postings, 6478 Tage BOCandorra@bockaufboc

 
  
    #17810
28.11.13 12:42
Vielen Dank für die Recherche! Sie ist überaus hilfreich!

222 Postings, 6324 Tage reinhold_tabris17808

 
  
    #17811
3
28.11.13 12:45
Wie kann es sein, daß die Lo`s für BCL sind und ihr gewählter Vorsitzender (Lawrence) dagegen?  

933 Postings, 4693 Tage LOFP@reinhold

 
  
    #17812
28.11.13 13:04
genau das frage ich mich auch!!!  

468 Postings, 4975 Tage macoubaMining Law

 
  
    #17813
1
28.11.13 22:08


ABG mining law process rushed and biased: MPMinin
by ramunickel
Strong mining laws needed in Bougainville

Post Courier

Mining on Bougainville can only be considered if strong mining laws are in place, says Central Bougainville MP and Minister for Information and Communication Jimmy Miringtoro.

Mr Miringtoro said such laws must ensure that resource owners are shareholders and that there is minimal damage to the environment through better waste management and mining methods that will not cause so much pollution and degradation of arable land.

"Having heard what my people had to say regarding resumption of mining in Panguna and the establishment of another large scale mine on the island, I have decided there are a whole lot of issues to be resolved before mining can take place on Bougainville," Mr Miringtoro said.

The MP said there are basic grievances of the people of Bougainville in terms of compensation for loss of land and environmental damage done in the past that need to be addressed before the resumption of mining can be considered.

"There must be greater involvement by resource owners and community leaders throughout Bougainville in the creation of this laws and this must have a same hearing as the Bougainville constitution received," he said.

"Above all, these laws must also ensure equitable distribution of wealth from the mine so that no one group in Bougainville becomes rich while the rest are poor."

Mr Miringtoro said at this point in time it is highly unlikely that ABG will be able to manage the impact of mining in Bougainville because it simply lacks the resources and the capacity to do so.

He expressed disappointment at the way the ABG conducted its mining forums which he said were not as inclusive as they should have been.

"Only certain chosen people with name tags hanging around their necks were accorded more time to talk at the forum and many people felt unwelcomed by the forums which were staged inside a building instead of out in the open in view of the general public," he said.

"These chosen people were of course none other than the ones who supported the return of Bougainville Copper Limited to Panguna."

He said these forums were rushed to justify that the people of Bougainville had been informed.

"We all know that the reopening of Panguna mine was always high on ABG’s agenda," he said.

Mr Miringtoro said the people were ignored by the ABG when it was carrying out its mining forums which were brief and not extensive enough to give leaders and key community members and rural Bougainville opportunity to register their input on the mining agenda.

ramunickel | November 29, 2013 at 8:03 am | Tags: Bougainville, Environmental damage, Human rights, Jimmy Miringtoro, Landholders, Mining Law, Panguna, Papua New Guinea, Rio Tinto | Categories: Human rights, Mine construction, Papua New Guinea | URL: http://wp.me/pMvf7-2Sr
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468 Postings, 4975 Tage macoubaBougainville signs Philippines deal on gold,copper

 
  
    #17814
1
28.11.13 22:47
Bougainville signs Philippines deal on gold, copper, logging, palm oil and tuna
by ramunickel
PME Intl, Bougainville sign development deal

Manila Standard Today

The Autonomous Region of Bougainville, a newly independent country carved out of the Papua New Guinea group of islands, has partnered in a national economic program with PME International, a corporate conglomerate.


President John L. Momis, president of the Autonomous Bougainville Government, and Gil-Su Jung, PME president, led the signing of the contract on Nov. 20, 2013, at Shangri-La Manila, covering key resources on land and at sea.

The agreement was put into a formal pact, joined by Micheal Oni, ABG minister of mineral resources; Edwin Uy, Counsel of ARAB Dae gu Jeon, Incheon Metropolitan City international advisor, among other company and government executives.

“The contract deals with the development of 60,000 hectares of the forest,” the ABG said in a statement. “This includes the production of wood, and the establishment of plywood and wood pellet factories. The overall goal is to raise the sales to approximately three billion dollars” leading to the creation of palm oil farms for “a steady stream of income.”

The joint venture involves gold, iron and copper production along with expanding the tuna and related industries.

“PME International will join hands with the Autonomous Region of Bougainville, a country that has rich natural environment and an abundance of underground resources,” President Gil-Su Jung said.

“PME International will exert efforts to incorporate advanced management techniques and introduce land development strategies in this region; thus it will fund the development of road, harbor, and bridge facilities. This joint effort will help stabilize the newly-independent country.”

He said proceeds “will be used to increase the income of the native people improve the education system, and promote their welfare.”

PME International is the first Korean enterprise to set foot in the Autonomous Region of Bougainville and “develop its wood production industry based on the United Nations Framework Convention on Climatic Change Treaty.”  

15643 Postings, 6482 Tage nekroHiermit................

 
  
    #17815
1
29.11.13 01:06
.....................This email was copied to Mr. Matthews and Mr. Rali, but not Mr. Parry. Just minutes later, this email was copied to some of the major investors, including Mr. Passin, Bob Cross, and Carlo and Nico Civelli to advise them of the project and of the approximate cost. It is inconceivable that anyone reading these emails would not understand that the project was underway.

....ist die Involvierung der beiden Civellis zweifelsfrei per Gericht bestätigt.

http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/SC/13/19/2013BCSC1919.htm

555 Postings, 6478 Tage BOCandorra@reinhold_tabr & LOFP

 
  
    #17816
29.11.13 01:35
http://asopa.typepad.com/asopa_people/2013/11/...-of-change.html#more

Zweitletzter Absatz des Artikels von Leonard Fong Roka in PNG Attitude vom 17.11.2013:

"Daveona’s recent behaviour has been noted as unusual and he has said to have been seen drinking in the middle of high level meetings."

...und das geht schon seit Jahren so! Noch weitere Fragen?

Drogen- und Alkoholmissbrauch: Das kennt man doch auch in Deutschland und Luxemburg!

555 Postings, 6478 Tage BOCandorraDas Orderbuch füllt sich...

 
  
    #17817
29.11.13 01:40
...auf der Käuferseite:

Market Depth for BOUGAINVILLE COPPER
as at 11:38:35 AM Friday, November 29, 2013

BOUGAINVILLE COPPER Trade Summary - Status  
Last Change % Volume Trades Open High Low
0.440 0.015  3.53 1,250 1 0.440 0.440 0.440
Last Traded 1,250 @ 0.44 - 09:59:53

BOUGAINVILLE COPPER Market Depth
BOC Buyers
Level Buy Quantity Price
1  2 23,750 0.440
2  2 25,000 0.430
3  1 30,000 0.425
4  2 40,000 0.420
5  1 10,000 0.410
6  2 67,279 0.400
7  1 10,000 0.395
8  1 5,000 0.390
9  1 25,000 0.385
10  1 10,000 0.380
11  1 5,000 0.305
12  1 18,000 0.300

BOC Sellers
Price Quantity Sell Level
0.460 493 1 1
0.465 15,000 1 2
0.480 11,000 1 3
0.500 10,000 1 4
0.520 10,000 1 5
0.550 100 1 6
0.570 2,750 1 7
0.575 100 1 8
0.625 18,800 1 9
0.640 5,686 1 10
2.000 660 1 11
5.000 178,000 1 12
5.400 200 1 13
7.200 600 1 14
7.800 5,000 1 15
13.900 1,200 1 16
18.500 5,000 1 17
22.350 50,000 1 18
25.000 30,000 1 19
30.000 81,300 2 20
45.000 1,900 1 21


933 Postings, 4693 Tage LOFPUnd warum ist er dann der Vorsitzende?

 
  
    #17818
29.11.13 01:47

468 Postings, 4975 Tage macoubaRole of Dave Martin

 
  
    #17819
29.11.13 07:07
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Mr Regan and the Rio Tinto takeover of Bougainville
by ramunickel
Starting From Scratch

We should examine what it would take to run an ethical, transparent operation – one that doesn"t require Australian academics to serve as advisory mercenaries to launder unethical behavior in the name of progress

David Martin | Inverted Alchemy

I"ve spent a considerable amount of time this week reviewing the creative writing of Australia National University"s Fellow of State, Society & Government in Melanesia Program Mr. Anthony Regan.  Having "specialized in constitutional development" in Papua New Guinea, Sri Lanka, East Timor and Uganda, Mr. Regan has recently submitted a proposed "transitional mining act" to the Parliament of the Autonomous Region of Bougainville.

And, for those of you who are not familiar with Bougainville, a little history lesson is in order.  Under a dubious entitlement mandate from the United Nations following the Second World War, the Australian government decided that it needed to take possession of the massive metal reserves in the island at the end of the Solomon chain and, in 1967, confiscated Bougainville for their exploitation while "facilitating" independence for the state of Papua New Guinea.  Over the well-documented opposition of many local communities, the Australian Administration and their appointees in the Papuan Administration, the 1967 Bougainville Copper Agreement Act became a supra-Constitutional Agreement between a territorial administration and Bougainville Copper Limited.  As if to prove that they knew that they were violating international legal standards, clause 4 of the amended Act states that "no other law of Papua New Guinea, affects this Act or the Agreement."  In clause 5 of the amended Act, the Prime Minister (remember, the State had not yet been established) is granted the power to exclusively administer the Act without any consent, approval, or any other law.  In other words, the Australians, in what amounts to unlawful territorial seizure, enacted a law above ANY sovereign law directly expropriating land for their exclusive economic exploitation.  Oh, and for their $5 million trouble of exploring the mineral reserves, the Company (BCL) had to pay the extraordinary sum of 1.25% of "applicable revenue" from the mine!

In an elaborate scheme reminiscent of the first theft of Bougainville"s assets, Mr. Regan has complied with the wishes of his paymasters and drafted a new mining bill that preserves nearly all the abuses embodied in the 1967 Act.  To add insult to injury, his proposed bill reinforces the corruption quotient by burying in Clause 26 the nullification of the over 200 provisions with the simple empowerment of the Autonomous Bougainville Government to act unilaterally and without consideration of any law as it wishes.  Using his "constitutional" expertise, he"s taken to the U.S. government"s definition of Constitutional Law – if it is expedient, do it and tread on the Constitution to get what you want (thanks GW and BO!).

Now Mr. Regan and BCL (along with Rio Tinto – the 54% owner of BCL) want to take advantage of the pro-autonomy movement in Bougainville and pull off another heist of gargantuan proportion.  But they forget that the world is more interconnected.  And while they and the BCL shareholders desperately want to take another malevolent trip around their merry-go-round of abuse, they are ignoring the simple fact that their "advice" and extra-governmental manipulation are now available for the world to see.

Whether the Panguna Mine opens or not is an issue that should be decided by the citizens of Bougainville – including those who participated in the armed uprising in 1989.  But more fundamentally, we should examine what it would take to run an ethical, transparent operation – one that doesn"t require Australian academics to serve as advisory mercenaries to launder unethical behavior in the name of progress.  If the citizens of Bougainville determine that they would like to see their land utilized for mineral extraction, that"s a call that they should make fully informed of all the facts.  They should be informed of the state-of-the-art in development, mining, environmental management, power generation, and market participation at all capital levels.  If Rio Tinto and BCL want to be candidates as future operators, they should step up to the damage that they"ve already done and evidence their candidacy for action not by manipulating the law but by being responsible citizens accountable for past harm.

This week, Australia has a chance to amend a blight on its post-War legacy in the Pacific.  It can intervene in this miscarriage of due process.  Together with the citizens of Bougainville, Australia can start from scratch and see if it can win in the full light of day rather than in the veiled obscurity of manipulation and corruption.  We"ll see.

ramunickel | November 29, 2013 at 11:18 am | Tags: ABG, Anthony Regan, ANU, AusAID, Bougainville, Environmental damage, Human rights, Landholders, Panguna, Papua New Guinea, Rio Tinto | Categories: Human rights, Papua New Guinea | URL: http://wp.me/pMvf7-2SC
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11671 Postings, 6482 Tage 1ALPHAAch nun macht

 
  
    #17820
3
29.11.13 08:31
'mal halblang mit den Gedanken, irgend eine kleine Firma könnte gegen Rothschilds Interessen handeln. Rockefellers und Rothschilds - sie arbeiten inzwischen auch öffentlich zusammen, was eigentlich Jedem die Einstellung des ADR Programmes erklären sollte - haben genug Informationen, Macht und Einfluß, das zu unterbinden.

Wie konsequent vorgegangen wird, ist doch klar - oder?
https://www.google.de/...CA&ved=0CEIQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=624

Deshalb bleibt es dabei:
BCL ist eine hoch spekulative Rohstoffspardose, bei der alles klar ist -
außer dem Zeitplan.  

666 Postings, 5904 Tage havannaAuszug au Posting # 17814

 
  
    #17821
29.11.13 13:10
The joint venture involves gold, iron and copper production along with expanding the tuna and related industries.

Wird so beiläufig erwähnt, dass sie neben der Forstwirtschaftlichen Nutzung von 60.000 ha Wald ja auch in der Gold Kupfer und Eisen Produktion übereinkünfte getroffen haben.

Was soll dass bedeuten frage ich mich?
Sollte da nicht erst mal mit BCL eine Übereinkunft erzielt werden, bevor hier anderweitig schon großmächtig Verträge geschlossen werden. Immerhin hat diesn sogar Momis mit unterzeichnet?!
Oder ist der Prozess mit BCL im Hintergrund schon so weit Fortgeschitten...?!

 

1335 Postings, 6481 Tage Traderevil....immerhin ist das...

 
  
    #17822
29.11.13 13:52

..Holzgeschäft nach wie vor eines der einträgtlichsten wenn nicht das einträglichste Geschäft für eine kleine einflussreiche Gruppe in PNG.

Wenn sie dafür die Finger von den BCL royalties lassen,.... so what. ;-)))))))))))))))))

 

666 Postings, 5904 Tage havannaDer springende Punkt ist doch

 
  
    #17823
29.11.13 15:18
The joint venture involves gold, iron and copper production

Nicht das Holzgeschäft!  

15643 Postings, 6482 Tage nekro#17809

 
  
    #17824
29.11.13 15:22
Wer sich die 35 Seiten reingezogen hat erkennt wer alles (Hedgefounds,Civellis,etc.) hinter den Kulissen mitmischt u. auch welches finanzielle Potential den Tricksern zur Verfügung steht.

Da ist es fast schon lachhaft dass die Civellis es wegen lumpigen 175K $ darauf ankommen liessen ihre schmutzige Wäsche mit Semple in aller Oeffentlichkeit zu waschen.

Funny dass sie dabei zudem noch die Arschkarte gezogen haben. ;-)))))

1335 Postings, 6481 Tage Traderevil....das stimmt allerdings ;-)))))

 
  
    #17825
29.11.13 15:58

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