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Verwechselst du da nicht Morumbi mit Icam?

...da schon ziemlich sicher.Müßte nur mal die mail´s durchgehen. ;-)))))  

Lies sich damals so, als hätte LD auf die dunkle Seite der Macht gewechselt. :-)  

....mir war diese Angelegenheit in der Erinnerung geblieben. Man hat aber auch schon lange nichts mehr  von LD gehört nach den

http://www.bougainville-copper.eu/news-june-2012-2.html

vom
13.06.2012




David Martin: entrepreneur, newsman or jumping jack?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROwKC8BGmvY&feature=player_embedded

was ist eigentlich aus diesem Kontakt zu Dr. D. Martin geworden. Gibt es da irgendwelche Resultate die von Interesse wären oder war es nur ein(e) Versuch/Episode wie andere auch??  

LD hat mit Morumbi nix am Hut, sein Ziel ist dass Panguna wiedereröffnet wird u. die Lo`s ihr Stück vom Kuchen abbekommen.

Der Martin scheint gut beschäftigt zu sein

http://www.m-cam.com/display_news

sein B`ville Trip ist in den hinteren News Seiten verschwunden.


Vielleicht wollte er nur für JPM die Lage peilen oder es war ein Urlaubstrip ..... ;-))))))))

..... es ist schön zu hören das alle an einem Strang ziehen. Platitüde: Wichtig dabei ist nur in eine!!! in die selbe Richtung.

Ich habe da keine Vorurteile zur Person und verstehe auch wenn jedes Mittel (gemeint ist richtig Druck aufbauen wo immer es nur geht) recht ist.

Am Ende des Tages (Wochen, Monate...) werden dann Ergebnisse stehen. ;d))))  

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Panguna: Duty first, mine later




ANY mining company wanting to re-open and operate the Panguna Mine will have to honour customary obligations first by settling the 20,000 lives lost and blood shed on the island during the Bougainville Crisis. 
This was the stand taken by former combatants during the 4th Regional Veterans Association Forum at Kangu Beach, Buin District in South Bougainville.

All speakers who spoke on the re-opening of the Panguna Mine agenda echoed the same sentiments, most calling for the re-opening of the mine as a priority. However, before the mine is re-opened settlement for the lives lost and blood shed must be customarily sorted out.

Former combatant from Wakunai Glynn Tovirika told the forum that the re-opening of the Panguna Mine is a must as the Autonomous Bougainville Government does not have the funding capacity at the moment to carry out its obligations to provide much-needed services to its population. However, before any mining company including Bougainville Copper Limited (BCL) come in to operate, the customary obligation must be met.

"All the blood shed and lives lost during the conflict must be compensated…must be settled in our Bougainville custom. We have custom and such people who want to come and re-open the Panguna Mine must settle this outstanding issue," Mr Tovirika told hundreds of veterans gathered in Buin last week.

Mr Tovirika said Panguna Mine was central to the Bougainville Crisis thus the cultural value of this place must be upheld.

"I don"t care who comes in to re-open the Panguna Mine, whether BCL or whoever, the story is the same…you have a customary obligation to abide by….and that is to pay for the blood and lives lost before you start digging our mine pit," Mr Tovirika stated.

Peter Naguo, another outspoken ex-combatant from Buin told the forum that Panguna Mine and our island is cursed by those thousands of lives lost during the fight.

"Before the mine is re-opened we have a mammoth task on hand," he said. 
"That is to gather all the remains of those who died and put them at their right places. If we don"t do that and open the mine, things will definitely go wrong again because the lives lost are still crying out for a proper burial."

Mr Naguo added that all the reconciliations must be completed before the mine is opened. 
All those present shared the same sentiment that outstanding issues on the mining including lives lost, environmental damage and other customary obligations must be adhered to before the opening of the mine becomes a reality.

At the back of their minds, the veterans, like the government and people of Bougainville really want the mine to be operational because the region does not have any strong base of revenue with only funding from the National Government  

Das hat sogar der allerletzte Meekamui inzwischen kapiert ;-)))))

der Kurs auf ein neues Interim Low gefallen ist habe ich ein neues Wort gelernt:
customary obligation
Was bedeutet das?
Nun, die Menschen wollen eine Kompensation für die vielen Toten während des Bürgerkrieges gegen die Zentralregierung, gegen Executive Outcomes und BOC.
Da wird bei 20.000 Toten schon was zusammenkommen.
Und wer soll das bezahlen? Ganz bestimmt nicht das AGB oder PNG und auch keine andere Minengesellschaft (warum sollten die?) deshalb bleibt BOC und RT übrig.
Quasi ein Eintrittsgeld.  

Nicht "Executive Outcomes" sondern "Sandline" war die Söldnertruppe im Konflikt um die Panguna-Mine. Ist aber Jacke wie Hose.  

Sandline wurde von PNG beauftragt und nicht von BCL.

Es war und ist und bleibt ein Bürgerkrieg zwischen PNG und Bougainville.
Und nicht zwischen BCL und Bougainville.

Und das schon auch alleine deshalb, weil BCL gar nicht die Autorität und Legitimation besitzt, eine Insel wie Bougainville in die Unabhängigkeit zu entlassen. Und um diese Unabhängigkeit ging es immer und geht es immer noch.

Und BCL tut gut daran, sich aus diesem Unabhängigkeits-Konflikt herauszuhalten.
Was wiederum der Grund ist, warum Taylor aktuell von der Möglichkeit spricht, in 5 Jahren mit Panguna am Start sein zu können. Er sagte nicht, das diese Möglichkeit auch mit Sicherheit eintritt. Daher ja auch mein jüngster Kommentar dazu...  "die Richtung stimmt". Ob das nun wiederum von Mitlesern als optimistisch oder pessimistisch gewertet wird, überlasse ich jedem selbst.

Und alles etwas weiter gedacht..  PNG kann Bougainville am Ende mit den 19%-BCL-Aktien entschädigen. Dazu muss die Bougainville-Bevölkerung nur diesen gerade dargelegten Zusammenhang akzeptieren. Aber eben genau das tun sie nicht. Und daher verschleppt sich alles um viele Jahre und Jahrzehnte.

Eines wird in den vielen Artikeln, Kommentaren und Reaktionen immer deutlicher:
Die Unabhängigkeit der Insel Bougainville ist noch lange nicht beschlossene Sache.
2001-Friedensvertrag hin oder her, der offizielle Unabhängigkeits-Prozess hat noch nicht einmal begonnen. Und wenn er dann 2015 endlich beginnt, muss er nicht zwangsläufig auch in der Unabhängigkeit enden.

Das haben nur noch nicht alle auf der Metallinsel verstanden. Ab 2015 wird dieses Verständnis aber benötigt. Weil, ohne eigene Einnahmen kann es faktisch keine Unabhängigkeit geben. Denn das Naturgesetz „ohne Moos nichts los“ gilt eben im ganzen Universum, auch down under.  

Stimmt alles, guter Beitrag.
Was ich sagen wollte: Die "Eingeborenen" wollen mitbestimmen, sie wollen entschädigt werden, die Frage ist aber: Wer war "schuldig" an dem Konflikt?
Neben der (unvermeidlichen) Umweltzerstörung hat die Locals am meisten gestört das sie nur einen unverhältnismäßig kleinen Anteil dessen, was CRA bzw. Boc an PNG gezahlt hat bekommen haben.
Leider haben die Locals noch keinen "Body" um verhandeln zu können. Und hier dreht sich die Katze im Kreis.
Das alles kann dauern ...  

Yes I am now the new Chairman of SML and the Umbrella Association.

Nekro wurde gewählt? Dann Geht es ja bald los!  

Lawrence Daveona  

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PANGUNA: DUTY FIRST, MINE LATER
by mekamui

Romulus Masiu | Post Courier



ANY mining company wanting to re-open and operate the Panguna Mine will have to honour customary obligations first by settling the 20,000 lives lost and blood shed on the island during the Bougainville Crisis. 
This was the stand taken by former combatants during the 4th Regional Veterans Association Forum at Kangu Beach, Buin District in South Bougainville.

All speakers who spoke on the re-opening of the Panguna Mine agenda echoed the same sentiments, most calling for the re-opening of the mine as a priority. However, before the mine is re-opened settlement for the lives lost and blood shed must be customarily sorted out.

Former combatant from Wakunai Glynn Tovirika told the forum that the re-opening of the Panguna Mine is a must as the Autonomous Bougainville Government does not have the funding capacity at the moment to carry out its obligations to provide much-needed services to its population. However, before any mining company including Bougainville Copper Limited (BCL) come in to operate, the customary obligation must be met.

   “All the blood shed and lives lost during the conflict must be compensated…must be settled in our Bougainville custom. We have custom and such people who want to come and re-open the Panguna Mine must settle this outstanding issue,” Mr Tovirika told hundreds of veterans gathered in Buin last week.

Mr Tovirika said Panguna Mine was central to the Bougainville Crisis thus the cultural value of this place must be upheld.

   “I don’t care who comes in to re-open the Panguna Mine, whether BCL or whoever, the story is the same…you have a customary obligation to abide by….and that is to pay for the blood and lives lost before you start digging our mine pit,” Mr Tovirika stated.

Peter Naguo, another outspoken ex-combatant from Buin told the forum that Panguna Mine and our island is cursed by those thousands of lives lost during the fight.

   “Before the mine is re-opened we have a mammoth task on hand,” he said. 
”That is to gather all the remains of those who died and put them at their right places. If we don’t do that and open the mine, things will definitely go wrong again because the lives lost are still crying out for a proper burial.”

Mr Naguo added that all the reconciliations must be completed before the mine is opened. 
All those present shared the same sentiment that outstanding issues on the mining including lives lost, environmental damage and other customary obligations must be adhered to before the opening of the mine becomes a reality.

At the back of their minds, the veterans, like the government and people of Bougainville really want the mine to be operational because the region does not have any strong base of revenue with only funding from the National Government and donors.
mekamui | June 7, 2013 at 2:00 pm | Categories: Uncategorized | URL: http://wp.me/prj9z-mO  

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PANGUNA FORUMS
by mekamui

The reopening of Panguna mine is very high on the Government agenda and many technocrats because of the revenue from it that will boost the economic side of the Autonomous Region of Bougainville. However, the three forums that have been held so far over the 3 Regions of the island itself have been attended by very few people who got the message and were willing and free. Otherwise the same people that travel with the ABG facilitator Raymond Masono, most of them are pro-mining people and maybe one way or the other they are getting paid or being promised payment.

The next forum, which the facilitators hope to be the biggest, has been moved to a later date. Mekamui news once again texted the Meekamui Government officers asking them what’s their latest stand and if they have given some kind of green light or would it be another company instead of the murderer of the Bougainville people during the conflict to come and reopen the mine? Their reply was in Pidgin again: “Maski kainkain forum bai kamap bai nogat mining” Though many forums are taking place there will be no mining.

The Minister for mining in the ABG Michael Oni has told the truth for him and his people in a Pacific beat programme, People have no land to plant their crops. They don't have any land for trees for housing. They have no land to make gardens.

Also the Minister for Community Development Melchior Dare who is from some kilometers from the deep hole says, We have to walk 3-6 hours just on a bush track, which is just outside Panguna because of the terrain. And when Panguna was operating what really affected us was cyanide, cyanide that was used for the industry. It affected our plants, our fruits, our birds but now because Panguna has been closed because of the conflict, now because the level of cyanide has gone down, the fruits have now come to fruiting and our environment is slowly rehabilitating.

One will wonder why they have to facilitate all these forums if they know what Panguna brought to them during its time of operation; the truth is it’s the money that makes us take a no care attitude towards our mother earth. Even though better negotiations and a good deal struck with more landowners participating the negative effects are always higher than the benefits with the mining industry.

A landowner from the area and a main figure Mr Lawrence Daveona says: Discussions on a possible re-opening of the Panguna mine are not reaching people at the village level. This is the truth, as mentioned above in the 3 forums so far most of the people who attended were the once who can travel or have been going with the facilitator above all they are pro-mining people who make money out of it somewhere somehow. Most of the villagers don’t know what’s going on and many of them are busy with their day-to-day duties trying to make their living. They will be taken by surprise when foreigners with their Bougainville counterparts start digging the hole again.
mekamui | June 7, 2013 at 12:15 pm | Categories: Uncategorized | URL: http://wp.me/prj9z-mG  

http://www.rnzi.com/pages/news.php?op=read&id=76673


Bougainville’s Momis says talks with former army leader going well

Posted at 19:01 on 10 June, 2013 UTC

The President of the autonomous Papua New Guinea province of Bougainville, John Momis, says good progress is being made in talks with the former leader of the Bougainville Revolutionary Army, Sam Kauona.

Earlier this year Mr Kauona was strongly critical of the government’s planned mining legislation, suggesting it was being written by an Australian academic, and local Bougainvilleans had no input.

Mr Momis has stressed Bougainvilleans will have a say and will play leading roles in the sector.

He says both men have since been meeting to talk and discuss the issues.

   “And in a spirit of collaboration and spirit of reaching an agreement that will get Bougainville on its feet again we have come a long way, in fact, we met again today (Monday) and tomorrow (Tues) we will continue. I am very happy with the progress we are making.”

The President of Bougainville John Momis.

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Panguna agrees

Landowners reach agreement to re-open giant gold-copper mine
By ROMULUS MASIU
in Arawa

AFTER 24 years, the leaders, landowners and people of Panguna mine in Bougainville have reached some sort of agreement and are ready to sit down, talk and negotiate for the re-opening of the defunct giant copper-gold mine.
Landowner discontent over equitable distribution and sharing of Panguna mine benefits led to PNG’s first serious Bougainville Crisis in May 1989 that went on for about 10 years.
It left about 20,000 dead, including men, women and children, as well as PNG soldiers, policemen and correctional officers.
According to reports from Panguna, the landowners are now ready to kick-start dialogue and negotiations with all the stakeholders, including the Autonomous Bougainville Government (ABG) led by President Fr John Momis, the PNG Government and BCL for the re-opening of the copper-gold mine.
Its is yet to be confirmed how widespread this consensus for negotiations fore the re-opening of the mine is, but it appears that Panguna landowners are now speaking the same language as pro-ABG veterans and ex-combatants
of Ishael Toroama and his group.
But one thing is certain - they want all outstanding issues to be sorted out, including bel kol or compensation payments, customary obligations for blood shed and lives lost during the 10 year crisis from May 1989 to August 2011 when the final peace agreement was signed in Arawa when Sir Julius Chan was Prime Minister.
What is coming out of Panguna is good news for everybody, especially for Dr Momis and the people of Bougainville who need money to develop the province as it moves forward to the scheduled referendum in 2015 when the people will have a say in determining their political destiny.
It also comes at a time when about 10 Chinese and US businessmen who are now in Buka for talks with Dr Momis for possible investment in Bougainville.
The Panguna landowners have elected Lawrence Daveona as chairman of the Special Mining Lease Association, one of six associations that make up the Umbrella Panguna Landowners Association. Mr Daveona automatically becomes chairman of the umbrella association.
The umbrella association has not been registered and Mr Daveona has undertaken to do have it registered as a matter of priority.
The full executive of the umbrella association is chairman Mr Daveona, deputy chairman Richard Avero, treasurer Tony Tapakau and secretary Dennis Nasia.
The association executive met yesterday (Monday) and resolved that they will be the sole representative of their people in any talks with ABG, the national government, BCL and any other interested investor.
Chairman Daveona, who comes from the same village of Guava as late Francis Ona who instigated the 10 year crisis, thanked the landowners for electing him chairman and told them he will make the re-opening of the mine his priority.
“I will fight for what is best for the landowners and for all the people of North, Central and South Bougainville, especially those who died and suffered during the Bougainville Crisis,” he said.

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Bei der Überschrift müßte eigentlich der Kurs durch die Decke gehen, wären da nicht die zehn Chinesen und der amerikanische Geschäftsmann in Buka bei Momis. Was wird hier gespielt?  

Breaking News in wenigen Minuten auf www.bougainville-copper.eu !

Zu viele Konjunktive im Text und in der Realität... ;-)  

 

Hatten die zehn Chinesen einen Kontrabass dabei ?  

Im Kontext mit #16068 ist davon auszugehen dass es mit Sam Kauona zu einer Einigung bez. der Mining Policy gekommen ist und diese bei der nächsten Parlamentssitzung des ABG noch in diesem Monat verabschiedet wird.

Das macht den Weg frei damit beim nächsten ende Juni geplanten JSB Meeting die Mining Power von PNG ans ABG übertragen wird.

Danach steht der BCA Review nichts mehr im Wege (O-Ton Peter Taylor "We are ready"

Heute liess sich wieder mal sehr gut erkennen dass der Kurs an der ASX durch eine Eisberg VK Order a 0,50 AUD gedeckelt u. der Kurs auf diesem Niveau gehalten wird.

http://cb.iguana2.com/netwealth2/depth/boc

http://www.tradingroom.com.au/apps/qt/...amp;code=BOC&time=latest