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189 Postings, 6487 Tage oyoo*

 
  
    #7701
15.02.11 00:15
Was für ein schreckliches Englisch!
Gruß an alle!

oyoo  

521 Postings, 5202 Tage xxxraphaelxxxoyoo

 
  
    #7702
1
15.02.11 00:50
was meinst du damit?

ich finde den text sehr gut (im sinne unserer sache) und auch sympathisch.

Wenn das englisch nicht deinem (vielleicht) akademischem anspruch entspricht, so ist die darin enthaltene reife und übersicht doch sehr angenehm.  

189 Postings, 6487 Tage oyoo*

 
  
    #7703
15.02.11 01:07
Nein, es klingt halt so Pidbin-mäsig. Dieses gestelzte Geschwurbel lesen wir ja schon seit mehreren Jahren. Dahinter stecken die selben Spiele, wie sie unsere Politiker veranstalten. Es geht um Macht und Einfluß.
Die Leidtragenden sind die Menschen auf Bougainville, die gerne Arbeit hätten, Schulen und medizinische Versorgung. Eine Zukunft eben!
Und die Verantwortlichen verzögern vorsätzlich!
Ich beobachte das schon sehr langem.
Ich darf mir diese Meinung erlauben!
Grüße an alle!

oyoo  

521 Postings, 5202 Tage xxxraphaelxxxJSB Meeting

 
  
    #7704
1
15.02.11 02:40
140211JSB MEET
By Aloysius Laukai

ABG President John Momis and his delegation left Buka this morning to attend the long awaited Joint Supervisory Body Meeting in Port Moresby this week.
This will be the second JSB meeting under ABG President John Momis since taking office at the President in June last year.
The meeting would discuss issues affecting Bougainville and other matters of importance.
Tomorrow the technical team will meet before the meeting which is scheduled for Wednesday this week.
New Dawn FM understands that the most pressing issue now on the ground is the outstanding Fifteen Million Kina which the National Government continues to delay the payment to the ABG.  

555 Postings, 6495 Tage BOCandorraNews!

 
  
    #7705
1
15.02.11 02:46
Eine interessante Nachricht wird in Kürze auf der Webseite
www.bougainville-copper.eu  veröffentlicht!

555 Postings, 6495 Tage BOCandorraNews!

 
  
    #7706
15.02.11 02:48
Interessante Nachrichten werden in Kürze auf der Webseite
www.bougainville-copper.eu  veröffentlicht!

521 Postings, 5202 Tage xxxraphaelxxxhttp://www.hotcopper.com.au/post_threadview.asp?fi

 
  
    #7707
2
15.02.11 03:08

382 Postings, 6495 Tage centwatchGespräch mit PC

 
  
    #7708
5
15.02.11 07:08
Mein Eindruck:

Er weiss nicht, was ausser der 30 Mio Kina Frage noch auf der JSB Agenda steht. Es würde ihn aber nicht überraschen, wenn auch das BCA diskutiert werden würde. Was genau rauskommt, muss man abwarten.

Wichtig: Der Abschluss der landowner Wahlen scheint nicht unabdingbare Voraussetzung für die Einberufung des BCA zu sein, man könnte auch beginnen mit den Themen, die die landowner weniger bzw. gar nicht betreffen.

Reger Austausch mit Momis, positive Kommentare von Momis zuletzt in der Presse.  

448 Postings, 6494 Tage bockaufbocBCA wird scheinbar diskutiert

 
  
    #7709
2
15.02.11 08:00
150211tech meet
By Aloysius Laukai

Technical teams for both the ABG and the National Government met in Port Moresby today to prepare the agendas for tomorrow’s Joint Supervisory Body meeting.

According to reports from Port Moresby the team had two separate meetings.

New Dawn FM understands that among the pressing issues, the ABG President also wants to discus issues relating to the Bougainville Copper Agreement Review.

15644 Postings, 6499 Tage nekroPOLITICS: Countdown begins for Panguna mine reopen

 
  
    #7710
1
15.02.11 10:40
http://www.islandsbusiness.com/islands_business/...ueArticle-full.tpl

Bougainvilleans key to mine’s success

Rowan Callick



Plans are under way for the opening of one of the world’s biggest copper and gold mines, with resources worth about $US50 billion, as the China-driven commodities boom keeps rolling on.
So far, so predictable, if awesome.
But few people expected ever to hear of this vast pit ever again—except those canny investors who hung on to their shares for decades.
It is the Bougainville copper mine in Papua New Guinea, where production was suspended—the owners insist, not closed—on May 15, 1989.
Bougainville Copper Ltd—which is 53.58 percent owned by British-Australian mining giant Rio Tinto Ltd, 19.06 percent by the Papua New Guinea Government, and 27.36 percent by other shareholders—believes it will cost about $US3 billion to reopen the mine.
The vast trucks and electricity pylons may have been blown up or rusted or cannibalised, but the resources in the mine have not, of course, been damaged or diminished over the last 21 years.
It contains 3.5 million tonnes of copper, worth today about $32.4 billion, and 12.7 million ounces of gold, worth today about $17.8 billion.
It is capable of producing annually up to 170,000 tonnes of copper and 500,000 ounces of gold.
The copper price has risen four times since the mine closed, the gold price seven times. The two metals’ values have usually run counter-cyclically. This year, they have been peaking together.
But the cost of capital is also high and is likely to come at a premium given the tumultuous history of the mine.
Peter Taylor, who has been chairman of BCL since 2003, managing director since 2000, and who worked on Bougainville as the company secretary from 1985-87, says his focus is not on the hardware or the engineering or on raising the $US3 billion.
“The key to the door,” he says, “is the landowners. Until they say to BCL, as a united group, we want the mine and we want you to run it. Then, I’ll focus on the process that would follow.
“But we must ensure the landowners retain the number one importance. And the Bougainville government’s support is also critical.”
So far, in this direction, so good.
Taylor says: “All the signs are that the leaders on Bougainville want the mine open—and as soon as possible, rather than just ‘some day.’ And the national government agrees.”
The overwhelming focus on the mine as a national economy maker or breaker, that provided maximum pressure as it opened 40 years ago, is no longer present.
It remains the crucial income earner for Bougainville itself, but for PNG, the spotlight has shifted to the $16.5 billion ExxonMobil-led venture piping gas from the Southern Highlands to Port Moresby, where it will be liquefied for export to Asia—by far the biggest project ever conceived in the Pacific islands.
In this context, Port Moresby might more readily contemplate transferring its 19 percent ownership of Bougainville Copper to the island itself—where preliminary discussions have contemplated the autonomous government retaining 60 percent, and landowners taking on 40 percent.
On a pro rata basis, the owners of this 19 percent share would have to raise $570 million towards the mine’s reopening.
It is possible that Chinese entities, eager to obtain reliable sources of resources, may be prepared to help fund it, either in return for some equity themselves, or for future copper output.
Bougainville’s new president, John Momis, elected for five years in June, recently led a group of 34—including former combatants in the civil war—to China, where Momis recently served as PNG ambassador.
He said: “The Chinese have expressed an interest in the mine, but we are keeping all our options open.”
Former Australian prime minister Bob Hawke, who has strong Chinese commercial connections, also discussed the re-opening of the mine in late November, in a meeting in Port Moresby with Momis, in the office of veteran PNG Prime Minister Michael Somare.
Momis, a former Catholic priest and deputy prime minister, had presented a letter to the then BCL managing director Paul Quodling in 1987, while he was campaigning for the PNG election.That letter demanded that the company give three percent of its gross income to the Bougainville provincial government.
During the civil war, a leading rebel attempted to shoot Momis at close range from behind, but the pistol jammed.
He says now: “We are keen to reopen the Panguna mine, and we are holding talks with the landowners.
“Of course, Bougainville needs the mine to be reopened under a new regime. All parties should learn lessons from the crisis, and collaborate to build a better future.”
Under the peace accord with PNG, Bougainville has the right to administer its own mining and land laws.
The World Bank has been funding a programme to help Bougainville draft its own mining regime.
Taylor hopes this will complement the PNG mining legislation, which has helped facilitate a massive resources boom there.
Since BCL suspended the mine, numerous other groups, some of them extremely shadowy, have attempted to insinuate themselves into this hugely prospective mining zone.
But Taylor says, “The Bougainvilleans have seen them come to the island and haven’t in the end liked them.”
“Thus they have come back to BCL, the devil they know, despite all their past disagreements. The rogues have done BCL a favour.”
There is no timetable for the mine’s reopening. But once an agreement is reached with the landowners, a feasibility study is approved and finance in place, it will take a further 2-3 years to get mining under way again.
The lengthiest part of that process would be caused by the lead-time needed to order the huge trucks and other new equipment to operate the mine. But Rio’s size would enable it, if it chose, to push Bougainville higher up its priority chain and so receive equipment already ordered for other projects.
Taylor says BCL will facilitate landowners’ meetings and help ensure the reconciliation process goes ahead. “But we’re mindful we should not be seen to influence the proceedings.”
He says: “Everything needs to be worked out as the agreement is renegotiated—including environmental issues such as tailings disposal, revenue sharing, ownership. And the landowners need to be resourced to participate effectively.”
All in marked contrast with the lead-up to the first incarnation of the mine, when the company was not permitted by the Australian government to negotiate directly with landowners.
“The situation is quite the reverse this time,” says Taylor. “The landowners are setting the agenda, though everyone will put their wish-lists on the table.”
He wants to see the landowners obtain equity in the project because it makes them “part of your business,” as well as giving them a share of the income stream.
“The balance needs to change in favour of those who are giving up the most, and they are the landowners. To make the project successful and saleable, they have to be part of the company.”
Compared with such an achievement, raising the $US3 billion will be a minor challenge.
The redevelopment of the mine could involve the present BCL components raising their own funding, borrowing the money from banks, forward-selling production, or bringing in new partners, or any combination.
Three big selling points of the project, are that it already has a port at Loloho, an access road winding up 30km of rugged terrain, and most importantly, has pre-stripped ore ready to extract, with 200 million tonnes available immediately.
“They give us a big leg-up,” says Taylor.
Technology has improved since the mine was suspended, he says—showing for instance, that tailings can be safely stored even in a seismically active area. “The landowners have to say which method they prefer,” Taylor says. Previously, they were disposed of in the Jaba River, a cause of controversy during the period of strife.
They will also discuss whether, or to what degree, workers fly in and fly out to the island, or are based there, as they were before in the largely destroyed town of Arawa.
Taylor says that the more workers can be recruited locally, the better—though “we have received numerous inquiries from ex-employees asking when we are re-opening.”
As the Ok Tedi mine—which has become hugely profitable since BHP-Billiton quit it—prepares to scale down as the resource declines, that would be an obvious source of skilled staff.
All such elements of the reopening require feasibility studies, says Taylor.
The other big factor exciting interest in the reopening of the Panguna pit, is the likelihood that it will lead to the end of the moratorium on exploration that began in 1971, as a result of the controversy over that first Bougainville mine.
Seven exploration licences covering 20 percent of the island are held by BCL and the potential to find new orebodies near the existing pit are considerable, which would take that mine well beyond its projected mine life of up to 20 years.
No one else holds any other exploration permits—as yet, though a German funded aeromagnetic survey 25 years ago revealed many highly prospective zones. Through the last 21 years, the principal owner, Rio Tinto, did not close down BCL—it has remained listed, playing a low-key role waiting for the climate to change.
But the share price has doubled since August and tripled since May, as the likelihood of a reopening dawned on investors—rallied in Europe by Axel Sturm, the energetic German president of the European shareholders of Bougainville Copper. The company has even made a profit most years, from placing its remaining cash in Australian listed investment companies.
Taylor says that even since the mine closed, the BCL Foundation has continued to fund 100 scholarships a year.
He says: “A generation of Bougainvilleans has missed out on employment.”
As an intriguing sideshow, a case has been winding its way through the American courts in which Bougainvilleans have claimed damages from Rio Tinto over the operation of the mine.
This has become a test case for the American jurisdiction, and ultimately the Supreme Court there is likely to rule on whether its jurisdiction stretches overseas. It is now unlikely to do so until some time after the mine has reopened.
But as Taylor says, the key remains the landowners—though others, such as former Bougainville Revolutionary Army “general” Ishmael Toroama, are insisting that all the demands made by other Bougainvilleans during the fighting, remain extant.
“Panguna—after the war—now belongs to all Bougainvilleans,” he says, insisting that the original claims for environmental compensation remain extant.
The recently elected Bougainville government, however, and the Panguna Landowners Assocation, have begun a series of intense discussions in order to move the process forward towards reopening.
Lawrence Daveona, the interim secretary of the PLOA and one of the long-standing leading figures on the issue, congratulated the Bougainville affairs minister in the national government, Fidelis Semoso, for his recent role in bringing together the leaders of the six mine lease areas, in a way unprecedented in the association’s 38 years.
No one is publicly talking timetables yet. But in the minds of most of the stakeholders, the countdown has already begun.



302 Postings, 6490 Tage sellongoodnews@nekro

 
  
    #7711
3
15.02.11 13:21
Damit ist wohl alles gesagt. Ich denke, dass man diesen Bericht als deutlichen Startschuß werten kann. Insbesondere hat mir gefallen - wenn ich das richtif verstanden habe - das man auf bereits für andere Projekte bestellte Fahrzeuge Rückgriff nehmen und so den Abbaustart im Vollumfang beschleunigen könnte.  

15644 Postings, 6499 Tage nekro"Ein deutlicher Startschuß"..............

 
  
    #7712
6
15.02.11 13:54
............wird m. M. nach erst die offizielle Meldung über den Beginn der BCA Review sein.

Auch wenn es "in der Sache" kontinuierliche Fortschritte gab, so darf man nicht vergessen dass es ausser jeder Menge positiver Statements in den letzten 6 Jahren noch keinen einzigen konkreten Schritt in richtung Wiedereröffnung gab.

Erst die Übertragung der Miningpower u. BCL Shares ans ABG, die BCA Review und die Aufhebung des Miningmoratoriums sollten der Katalysator zu höheren Kursen sein.

Spätestens am nächsten Montag vor dem geplanten grossen Landeignermeeting sollten wir mehr wissen ;-)))))))))))

15644 Postings, 6499 Tage nekroGeringes Angebot treibt Kupferpreis

 
  
    #7713
1
15.02.11 17:46
http://www.godmode-trader.de/nachricht/...t-Kupferpreis,a2466590.html

von Thomas Gansneder
Dienstag 15.02.2011, 15:07 Uhr München (BoerseGo.de) - Basismetalle und Agrarrohstoffe sind derzeit die interessantesten Marktsegmente für Rohstoff-Investoren. Diese Ansicht vertritt Peter Königbauer, Fondsmanager des Pioneer Funds - Commodity Alpha (LU0313643024). Haupttreiber bei den Industriemetallen seien die gute Konjunktur in China und anderen Schwellenländern sowie positive Wirtschaftserwartungen in den USA. Die Erfahrung zeige, dass mit positiven Konjunkturentwicklungen auch die  Preise für Basismetalle anziehen. "Vor diesem Hintergrund ist Kupfer derzeit das interessanteste Metall", erklärt Königbauer. Denn der Investmentexperte geht davon aus, dass nach heutigem Stand die Kupfernachfrage in diesem Jahr höher bleiben werde als das Angebot. "Das sollte den Kupferpreis weiter treiben", erwartet der Fondsmanager. Am Spotmarkt kostete die Tonne Kupfer zuletzt um 10.000 US-Dollar.

Die jüngsten Preissteigerungen am Markt für Agrarrohstoffe hält Königbauer für gerechtfertigt. Auch dort sei in vielen Bereichen die Nachfrage derzeit höher als das Angebot. So hätten verschiedene Naturereignisse im vergangenen Jahr wie etwa die Brände in Russland und die Flutkatastrophe in Pakistan sowie zuletzt die Flut in Australien die Preise für Getreide und andere Soft Commodities stark nach oben getrieben. In diesen Bereichen rechnet Königbauer auch weiterhin mit hohen Preisen: "Für eine Trendwende brauchen wir deutliche Signale, dass sich die Situation von Angebot und Nachfrage entspannt". Doch diese Anzeichen seien vorerst nicht in Sicht. Daher hat der Fondsmanager Baumwolle, Kakao und Zucker in seinem Fonds übergewichtet.


521 Postings, 5202 Tage xxxraphaelxxx+9 haben wir, bitte noch 11x voten danke

 
  
    #7714
15.02.11 19:20

915 Postings, 6499 Tage Carlchen03... eure Däumchen ...

 
  
    #7715
15.02.11 20:11
... bitte noch 8 mal gen Norden, danke !  

1803 Postings, 5162 Tage toxxosmeine Aktien bekommt ihr nicht...

 
  
    #7716
1
16.02.11 02:28
...unter 10 Euro, und wenn es noch 10 Jahre dauern sollte!!!
Hoffentlich geht BOC noch mal unter einen Euro damit ich weiter aufstocken kann.
Verkauft ihr zittrigen Hände!!!  

521 Postings, 5202 Tage xxxraphaelxxx@toxxos

 
  
    #7717
16.02.11 02:42
also wenn der kurs bis 10 geht wäre doch acuh 1,20 ein schnäppschen, oder?  

15644 Postings, 6499 Tage nekroRT AU 1,68 +3,7% 1,24 €

 
  
    #7718
16.02.11 06:23

220 Postings, 5544 Tage peter_ski#7716

 
  
    #7719
16.02.11 07:50
Also ich halte meine Aktien auch, wenn der Kurs unter € 1,-- kommt, werde auch ich nachkaufen.

Ich habe ein Verkaufslimit von 26,99 eingegeben (läuft zunächst bis 31.12.).

Schönen Tag!!  

15644 Postings, 6499 Tage nekroAnalysing the Bougainville peace process

 
  
    #7720
16.02.11 10:43

378 Postings, 5264 Tage BöckleinNachkaufen

 
  
    #7721
16.02.11 14:01

Da kann man mal sehen, wie auch hier einige der optischen Psychologie verfallen sind. Unter 1,-- € wird nachgekauft, zu 1,05 oder gar 1,20 aber nicht. Rational ist das kaum nachzuvollziehen, wenn man Kurse von 10 € erwartet.

 

666 Postings, 5921 Tage havannaWas ist

 
  
    #7722
16.02.11 14:51
schon normal an der Börse??? ;-)  

15644 Postings, 6499 Tage nekroAber........

 
  
    #7723
16.02.11 15:25
.....auch bei 2,3,4,5,.............wird noch gekauft werden ;-)))))))))))

378 Postings, 5264 Tage BöckleinDavon ...

 
  
    #7724
16.02.11 15:53

... müssten jedenfalls diejenigen ausgehen, die am Ende 10 € oder mehr erwarten - denn wie sollte der Kurs sonst in diese Höhe kommen?

 

15644 Postings, 6499 Tage nekroCopper Drops as Inflation Concerns Grow

 
  
    #7725
16.02.11 16:16

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