Mit Lisa Su und 7nm zum Next Horizon
Der andere Teilnehmer ist sogar als Ingenieur in einem Unternehmen aus der Branche beschäftigt.
Der sieht AMD in 12 bis 18 Monaten bei 100 US-Dollar
Die originale Verfassung:
ECOSYSTEM! read to whole comment before commenting please. It's all about a software/hardware ecosystem that allows big business to sustain long-term high profit margins. DIY market will never have as much volume nor margins as DC HPCs do in Enterprise accounts. Having said that, If you think that AMD is not going to command an ecosystem, then by all means SELL now and find a better investment. If you think AMD will command an ecosystem then BUY/HOLD because that will take AMD across $100. This is how Intel built it's empire with lousy products, it was only when sandy-bridge was released that Intel actually had a better product but even still IBM's PowerPCs were performance kings. Broadcom is and ecosystem-play, Qualcomm same. Nvidia with CUDA same. AMD had zilch.
HISTORY LESSON: So back in the day Jerry Sanders and his goons didn't care about an ecosystem and were happy to rely on Intel's libraries and x86 platform compatibility and sit back and make good hardware, they always had great engineers because AMD was and still is an Engineering-culture driven company. Once Bulldozer fell out of the sky ( architecture wasn't entirely at fault, it was Global Foundries that failed and delayed as Bulldozer was meant to be an architecture that could hit 7GHz and fit into an APU heterogenous SoC) and when Intel took architecture and process-node advantage with Sandy-Bridge it was game-over. Nvidia in the meantime built an ecosystem around their CUDA development kits. AMD was left to die after being bulldozed by Intel anti-trust practices and the expensive ATI acquisition that became a financial burden for a company that expected to rightfully sell the better performance Athlon cores that was sabotaged by Dell, HP and lenovo. But then along came Dr. Su and Papermaster, both from IBM and they KNOW ecosystem very well. I invested in AMD because I clearly saw what was holding AMD back, and I determined that Dr. Su has the right mind-set to fix all of these, and SHE DID EXACTLY THAT. Move production away from GloFlo, under-promise over-deliver, keep firm to product and tech releases, get rid of personalities like Raja, Scott and others, embrace Papermaster's intuition, no ego, establish trust, Encourage engineers, patience and perseverance and let time heal the wounds while staying true to delivering great products! ONLY after proving great products and solid 5 year unwavering road-maps can AMD claim that they are now fit for an Ecosystem-play. This is starting to happen as we speak and 2020 will be the year of products and solutions that are built on scalable ecosystems, preferably open-source heterogeneous ecosystems. Everyone is welcome to compete in this ecosystem and Dr. Su feels confident that on level playing fields neither Intel nor Nvidia can take her and her team and her ally partners, on.
So there we have it. That's why I'm holding AMD. Folk may hold $intc and $nvda for other reasons. e.g. @Mario aka Dos holds Nvidia because he's a fanboy of a fanboy (his kid) and that was his justification along with his cherry picked analysts that spew garbage. Gotta watch out for those. Yahoo is not the most intellectual board but we have some super smart people like @kris and others that make me smarter every time I read their comments.
Anyways, Zen 3 and BIG Navi is expected next year. I think AMD released PCIE-4 for the reason that they're cooking some big MCM chips for HPC and Gaming, that will rely on this, as well as Infinity-fabric based heterogeneous architectures. AMD has the lead on this tech (MCM + 7nm + respective scalable RDNA architecture), and it's a big ecosystem play imo. 7nm+ is best suited because it will offer 40% better die-size and 10% more efficiency. RDNA is already very efficient but with RDNA2 tweaks we should be able to squeeze multiple GPUs into a package without breaking the power-budget...but the end-result will probably be 40TFLOP GPUs that can do photo-realistic real-time rendering. Combine this with Google Stadia or VR headsets and edge-inference it's a whole new era entertainment and business/productivity use-cases.
Wen verhaltene Prognosen wundern, möchte vielleicht Geschehen zu Umweltprognose berücksichtigen, wo dieselben Image-Mechanismen zum tragen kamen.
Seit vielen Jahrzehnten fielen die Umweltprognosen stark konservativ aus, obwohl sie jährlich / inzwischen oft sehr viel häufiger noch / zum Negativen korrigiert werden müssen.
Worin ist das Phänomen begründet?
An dümmlicher Handhabung, welche zugleich als seriös erachtet wird.
Experten, die sich bezüglich Umweltschäden fortlaufend nach untern verschätzen, haben keinerlei Schaden an ihrem Ruf zu befürchten. Konservativ zu prognostizieren, gilt vollends unabhängig davon, wie sehr man eine realistische Entwicklung damit verfehlt und welchen kulturellen Schaden man damit anrichtet, als unaufgeregt und seriös.
Das ist der Grund, warum in Sachen Umwelt seit Jahrzehnten gegen alle Symptome, Wechsel-und Folgewirkungen stoisch unterschätzt wird, wo selbst ständiges Danebenliegen und Nachbessern keinem Ruf etwas anzuhaben vermag.
Umgekehrt nimmt das Ansehen prompt Schaden, wenn auch nur einmal übermäßig veranschlagt worden ist.
Von daher eben schickt es sich auch für jeden Analysten, der auf sich hält, Kurse unterhalb künftigen Potentials zu veranschlagen.
Damit ist man, unabhängig vom verfehlten Wert, stets zuverlässig auf sicherer Seite und einer Reputation als gelassener Fachmann.
Umgekehrt gilt für das Verschätzen nach oben hin Toleranzwert Null fürs Ansehen.
Trivialy as it gets.
insofern kann man keinem analzysten trauen ;)
mfg
für die Analzysten die Konservative Einschätzungen und 5% Marktanteil im bereich Server für AMD prädigen und Intel und Nvidia als die besseren Papiere sehen
Haben wir DR. LISA SU die diesen in den Allerwertesten Tretten, unzwar mit der Realität!
;)
Die RX570-590 Polaris 14 und 12nm Chips verbrauchen halt doppelt so viel, sind aber billig zu produzieren und erzielen leistungstechisch ähnliche Resultaten wie die 16er Reihe von Nvidia. Betriebswirtschaftlich gesehen würde ich die 590 um den 150 Preispunkt verkaufen, im oberen Segment die 5700er Reihe stehen lassen und auf eine 5600er und 5500er Reihe pfeifen, solange ich nicht genug Fab-Kapazitäten in 7nm habe. Jeder Euro, den ich in GPU Produktion stecke, ist ein relativer Verlust zu einem CPU Wafer.
Quasi als hätte man 2$ Verloren.
158mm² ist der 5500(XT)
da wird man schon bissl Kohle mit verdienen können.
Es würde mich nicht verwundern, wenn der 5500 zeitgleich mit Nvidias Ampere auf den Markt kommt.
Wer wird jetzt davon mehr profitieren AMD oder Nvidia?
A nine-session winning streak leading up to Nov. 19 took the shares to their highest level in over 13 years, although they have come off the multiyear highs.
What makes AMD's gain even more remarkable is that it has come on top of an 80% rally in 2018.
What has fueled the upside? With the staggering gains AMD has notched over a two-year period, does its valuation look stretched — or does the rally have a further leg up?"
Das war nur die Einleitung. Den Rest des Berichts gibt's hier: https://m.benzinga.com/article/...rce=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
Grüße in die Runde
BT
"AMD's product focus and innovation bode well for the stock, notwithstanding the stretched valuation of shares. The Street-high estimate for the shares is $52, suggesting an incremental 25% upside.
That said, the average analyst price target is $35.57, according to the Yahoo database.
Given the apprehension regarding valuation, any pullback in shares could present a buying opportunity.
AMD is likely to benefit from its strong roadmap and CPU share gain opportunity, Bank of America Merrill Lynch analyst Vivek Arya said in a recent note.
Arya has an Outperform rating on shares of AMD and a $44 price target." ...
Overall AMD gets a technical rating of 10 out of 10. Both in the recent history as in the last year, AMD has proven to be a steady performer, scoring decent points in every aspect analyzed.
https://www.chartmill.com/stock/analyzer/stock/...=technical-analysis
Surprise Apple December event will honor top apps, games
Da könnte eine Überraschung für AMD rausspringen. Vielleicht 7 Nanometer APU