Trading Bougainville Copper (ADRs) 867948

Egal, wie die Nachfrage aussieht - jedes zusätzliche Angebot an Kupfer senkt den erzielbaren Preis - so wie jedes geringere Angebot den Preis erhöht.

Und für Rio Tinto gilt, an BOC ist RT zu etwa 50% beteiligt - an anderen Kupfer Minen ist der Anteil höher.

Wahrscheinlich wird auch Rio Tinto die Öffnung der Panguna Mine unterstützen, falls die Bougainville Bevölkerung sich dafür ausspricht - aber die Notwendigkeit zur Öffnung der Mine ist dort begrenzt.

Weit wichtiger als für Rio Tinto sollte der Bergbau für die Menschen in Bougainville sein, da es nicht möglich ist, nur durch Steuern auf die bisherige Wirtschaft, Unternehmer, Arbeiter und Verbraucher die Einnahmen zu bekommen, die notwendig sind zum Bau von Schulen, Strassen, Krankenhäusern...

Ich sehe deshalb sehr logische Gründe für den Bergbau und bin deshalb - wie schon mehrfach mitgeteilt, mit einer Anfangsposition in BOC Aktien investiert.  

Ok! Danke für die Rückmeldung...  

@1ALPHA
Sehe ich wie du. Abwarten bis klarer wird wohin die Reise geht. Zu dem muss man sich in die Menschen von Bougainville versetzen. Ich hab jahrelang in afrikanischen Minen gearbeitet und tue mich da leichter.
Hilfreich sind die Filme beispielsweise von der ESBC-Seite.
Und - ich würde nicht alle Eier in einen Korb legen, wenn du weiß was ich meine.


@CCLSC
Guter Beitrag! Genau richtig was du schreibst. Das mögliche Referendum, also eine Unabhängigkeit bedeutet (aus meiner Sicht) dringend benötigte Einnahmen, allein schon um die nötige Infrastruktur aufbauen zu können. Nicht zu sprechen von
a; Arbeits und Ausbildungsplätzen und
b; bessere Bildung
Jedoch - PNG ist ein Drittweltland mit allen Risiken die daraus resultieren. Als CRA die Mine zum Leben erweckte hatte Australien die Pfoten drauf. Da wusste man was man hatte.

Der Südafrikaner, Jan du Plessis, der vor Tom Albanese sprach, sagte es doch in aller Deutlichkeit: Vor der Schließung der Mine trug BOC zu einem großen Teil der Steuereinnahmen von PNG bei und sie beschäftigten 2800 Menschen. Danach fand nichts dergleichen statt und die Insel fiel zurück in die Steinzeit (Ok, Übertreibung).
Mein Eindruck war das RT zwar ein Auge auf seine Rechte und die Situation auf Bougainville hat, das sie aber erst kommen wenn sie willkommen sind. Druck gibt es keinen. Alles ist verrottet oder gestohlen. Man hat sie verjagt. Und sie haben weltweit ne Menge anderer Eisen im Feuer ...  

... in terms of metals and ore:

http://www.businessinsider.com/15-resource-rich-countries-2010-4#

Nein, Bougainville ist als solches "noch" nicht erwähnt.... only joking. ;)  

Ich mag den Mr. Doom ja irgendwie, auch wenn man bei jedem seiner Worte immer denken muss: "Oops, ich muss heute noch alles verkaufen." ;)

http://www.businessinsider.com/...tralia-down-with-it-2010-4#comments  

http://www.postcourier.com.pg/20100427/tuhome.htm

By MOHAMMAD BASHIR

THEY flashed imaginary cash on their fingers and tucked their fists into their pockets to stress their points.
They said many Bougainville leaders had made decisions for their own selfish gain which had led to bloodshed during the crisis and would not allow any repeat this time. The two women who flew in from their village want women in Bougainville to be consulted before any discussions on re-opening the giant Panguna mine are made.
Bougainville is traditionally a matrilineal society like East New Britain and New Ireland. The womenfolk own the land and men are merely house husbands whose jobs are to garden, fish and make babies. Most decisions are made by the women. Since colonisation of PNG, women however have taken the backseat while men became leaders and made most of the decisions. Lynette Ona and Joan Dateransi are ordinary looking Bougainville women who have lived it all. They are in town for some other business but decided to call into the Post-Courier to express their opposition to reports that certain Bougainvillian leaders were mooting the idea of re-opening the Panguna mine.
Joan is the president of the Bougainville Indigenous Women Landowners Association (BIWLA) while Lynette is her deputy. After hearing the rumours, the two women said the mine will not be opened and CRA will not be allowed back to Bougainville. “We have never been consulted and we will not agree to allow CRA back to Panguna,” Lynette said.
They said the root cause of the Bougainville crisis was land because CRA simply did not worry about the future generation of the island.
“CRA destroyed our land, environment and our culture. Our association has been established to stand for those rights.”

U. die Antwort darauf von Eric Tapakau im Bougainville Chat

Of course NGOs have to make more noise to get that extra funding. This
no different to what Porabou is doing in London as BCL AGM is just
around the corner on Thursday. I will not be surprised if they front
up at teh Crown Plaza and make silly noises..

The environment in Panguna (where the pit is) is useless. You can not
plant kaukau in there or grow cocoa in there. No fish will ever retrun
to Java River, it will only be a haven for gold miners who will
continue to misuse mercury and kill themselves baliming that old man
thinking he used sorcery on them.

How are we going to make sure this people, it is fathers, mothers,
children who are on a day to day basis swimming in the Java River
panning gold and upstream someone is pouring mercury into the same
river?

That mine will be more dangerous in its current form than when it was
operating. If we do not allow BCL and its scientist into the mine to
asses the dangerous contents they left behind, more Bougainvilleans
will die like rats.

Besides, the mine will have to be reopened IF WE WANT TO GET SOMEWHERE.

Seems many prophets of dooms have sprung up recently and this is
another recipe for another bloody clash on Bougainville which all of
us must avoid at all costs.

et  

... nun eine Erkältung oder mittel-schwere Grippe bekommt, muss sich der Copper-Price mächtig warm anziehen. Aber das nur so am Rande. Panguna war bei einem Bruchteil der heutigen Kupferpreise hoch-profitabel, da wird ein temporärer Preisrückgang (so er denn Eintritt), nicht der Hauptgrund für oder gegen die Wiedereröffnung sein.

http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=HG&p=h1  

By ALEX MUNME

IF You are visiting Buka town in the Autonomous Region of Bougainville, you may be wondering what is going on as the days count down to the end of what is expected to be a hot, active and rowdy political election campaign.
However, this is not the case � election campaigns are quiet which may be the Bougainville style as the people are different in colour, culture and are humble.
Buka town, the current headquarters of the Autonomous Bougainville Government, and the centre of business and social activities in North Bougainville, has been quiet and peaceful since campaigns started on April 3.
There were no rallies or vehicles with large posters of candidates, no truckloads of mud-covered supporters with banners or loud hailers. Instead campaigns were done in small communities and villages away from town, mostly in the evenings.
In the Tsitalato constituency, candidates organised two separate sporting tournaments for the Malasang and Hangan communities last week.  

http://bougainville.typepad.com/newdawn/2010/04/...-good-leaders.html



BY ALOYSIUS LAUKAI

A senior lawyer says that the 2010 election has a very special significance in the political history of Bougainville and will have a great impact on the political future for Bougainville.

Bougainvillean lawyer Joel Misinsipi Nawa says leaders elected in this election will lead Bougainville into an unknown future.

He said it is therefore important that Bougainvilleans vote for people who will ensure their political dreams are achieved and that Bougainville becomes one of the safest place on earth.

He questioned who then is a good potential candidate that if voted, could become a great leader for Bougainville?

Mr. Minsipi said it is our Melanesian custom to only vote for people close to them in one way or another even if they have a corrupt leadership record.

He said this is a dangerous perspective that should not be used by right minded Bougainvilleans.

He says a narrow minded voter will vote for the President of Bougainville because the person comes from his district. A wise thinking voter will vote for someone who is from another part of Bougainville but one with an attainable vision for Bougainville.

Mr Minsipi also suggested seven ‘golden rules’ for use by Bougainvilleans voting for good leaders.

(1) Candidates with clear political vision for Bougainville and whose urgent policies touches on ''weapons disposal''

(2) Candidates who are reasonably educated to a tertiary level.

(3) Candidates who do not criticise about other fellow candidates personal lives when campaigning.

(4)Candidates who have wider experience in politics (politicians) and law (lawyers)

(5) Bougainvilleans living in Bougainville with the people and have contributed to Bougainville in the past 10 years.

(6) Candidates who have a good family life

(7) Candidates who will not give you any cash or kind when campaigning.

Mr Minsipi also said Bougainville really needs a group of leaders who are three times smarter than the PNG national parliamentarians. This is to effectively determine Bougainville’s political future in the next five years.

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Der diesjährige Bericht des BCL Vorstandvorsitzenden wurde soeben veröffentlicht!

Das PDF kann ab sofort bei den ESBC unter :

http://www.bougainville-copper.eu/pageID_8755201.html

heruntergeladen werden !

 

Bougainville Copper Ltd. (BOC)
Last Trade: $0.60 arrowChange: $0.06  11.11%Volume: 0.22MTrade Time: 2:39 PM AEST 29/04/2010



Code   Last   % Chg   Bid   Offer   Open   High   Low   Vol
BOC 0.600 11.11% 0.600 0.640 0.590 0.600 0.570 216,872  

Noch ein kleiner Widerstand bei 0,65 (100k) , 20k bei 0,745 danach 80k bei 1 AUD  

http://cb.iguana2.com/netwealth2/depth/boc  

......peace

http://www.rnzi.com/pages/news.php?op=read&id=53275

Posted at 02:57 on 29 April, 2010 UTC

An Australian academic says the first autonomous Bougainville government in Papua New Guinea needs to be recognised for maintaining the peace over the past five years.

This comes as Bougainvilleans are about to go the polls to elect the second autonomous government.

A political scientist at Woollongong University with links to Bougainville, Professor Ted Wolfers, says a number of ex-combatants are standing in the poll and now seem willing to work through democratic processes.

But he says the most obvious achievement of the first years of autonomy is that, in a post conflict situation, the province has remained at peace and a legitimate government has been kept intact.

“Beyond that I think one would have to say that they have laid the groundwork - I don’t think they are there yet - on perhaps one of the most important aspects of the peace process, which is the way in which they have been talking to people in the Panguna area, and this seems to be, although there are still divisions, an increasing willingness to engage in peace building and involve themselves, for example, in the electoral process and so on, in Bougainville.”
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Die Rädelsführer der verbliebenen Me'ekamui Kämpfer im Panguna Gebiet stellen sich unter Führung ihres "Generals" Chris Uma jetzt hinter den amtierenden Präsidenten James Tanis berichtet der Post-Courier. Damit steigen seine Chancen auf eine Wiederwahl.

Näheres auf : www.bougainville-copper.eu !

 

Damit kann seine Wiederwahl fast schon als gesichert gelten ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))  

Es ist unbedingt notwendig, auch die Menschen mitzunehmen und davon zu überzeugen, daß die besondere Situation bei den Rohstoffpreisen einmalig ist. Wie einmalig sie ist und wie schnell alles wieder anders ist, zeigt gerade Griechenland, das sich voll im Würgegriff der Spekulanten befindet. Gerade am Beispiel Griechenland können die Bürger in Bougainville beobachten, wie wichtig es ist, wirtschaftlich unabhängig von Krediten zu sein.  

... ich liebe deinen Optimismus! :-))  

.............representative body and also said
"By the time the President is elected the mine area landowners should
have formed a new landowner association and elected their representatives."
This means the landowner elections should also be held in May.

Hier könnte kurzfristig noch eine positive Ueberraschung warten,also gibt es allen Grund optimistisch zu sein ;-))))))  

... wir es ab. ;)  

wie lange es noch dauern wird:

In the five years or so that it will take to undertake feasibility studies, permitting, capital raising and equipment procurement necessary for a restart of mining, global metal prices might stay at levels close to those prevailing today.

Wer des Englischen nicht mächtig ist: FÜNF JAHRE! Steht so im aktuellen Bericht von BOC.
Das sitzen wir doch auf einer Backe ab, oder?  

Was meinst du, wo der Kurs steht, wenn die aufgeführten Bedingungen VOR Start der Study erst einmal gegeben sind? Ich glaube, dann sind hier einige schon millionen-schwer.... ;-))))))  

http://www.thenational.com.pg/?q=node/8623

BOUGAINVILLE Copper Limited (BCL) has proposed to commit US$3 billion (K8.2 billion) to return and reopen the abandoned Panguna mine in the Autonomous Region of Bougainville (ARB).
BCL chairman Peter Taylor yesterday announced the company’s intention to return and reopen the mine during its 43rd annual general meeting in Port Moresby with shareholders and landowners.
However, Mr Taylor told shareholders and landowners that it would need to be a fair and stable mining regime that gives investors the confidence needed to commit to a project that could cost billion.
He said the World Bank initiative aimed at helping Bougainville develop capacity to manage its mining sectors continue and there was a good chance the transfer of mining powers to ARB would occur this year.
“That is an important step because, as matters currently stand, there is an expectation of transition but not certainty,” Mr Taylor said.
He was hopeful that the new Bougainville mining regime would be largely consistent with the national model to assist with smooth transition from old regime to the new.
“If mining powers can be draw down by ARB without undue delay, BCL believes that Bougainville Copper Agreement while its terms are being renegotiated, can facilitate a return to Panguna and the early generation of benefits to stakeholders.”
Mr Taylor also disclosed studies indicated that there was in fact more gold, silver and copper in the ground at Panguna that had preciously been extracted.
He said though it was important to take the time to get the new mining regime right, it was also necessary for all parties to drive the process as hard as possible so current promising signs of world’s economic growth were not missed.
It is also learnt that there are stakeholders who are prepared to commit the K8.2 billion, including Rio Tinto as well as expanding share markets.

 

das sind ja deutliche Worte.Ich bin begeistert.Die nächsten Aufgabenstellungen sind jetzt unmissverständlich angesprochen.
Weiter so.  :D)