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712 Postings, 5732 Tage Jamannnhier mal nachlesen 3.2.2010

 
  
    #1626
1
08.12.10 18:41

The Irish Times - Wednesday, February 3, 2010

Bank of Ireland to exchange €2.9bn of lower tier 2 notes

 http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2010/...224263654931.html

 

 

2 Postings, 5102 Tage matse2@Jamann

 
  
    #1627
2
08.12.10 18:44
Ich wollte damit nur sagen, daß die BOI alles daran setzt eine Verstaatlichung
zu verhindern.
Denke BOI bleibt die einzige inländische  Großbank die nicht verstaatlicht wird.
Das dürfte auch für ausl. Investoren (Flowers, amerik. Banken) sehr interessant
sein um evtl. über BOI einen Fuss auf den Bankenmarkt der Insel zu bekommen.

Denke günstiger wie momentan kommt k. Großinvestor mehr rein, das wird sich auch schnell bei denen rumsprechen.

P.S.@Jamann, bin schon länger bei BOI investiert, habe das Forum auch schon lange gelesen und wollte mich auch mal äußern  

712 Postings, 5732 Tage Jamannn..

 
  
    #1628
08.12.10 18:47

 

 

Bank of Ireland to Swap $2 Billion of Junior Notes

December 08, 2010, 12:28 PM EST

 

Dec. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Bank of Ireland Plc, the nation’s biggest lender, offered to swap subordinated bonds at a premium to the market rate as it seeks to bolster its capital.

The bank will exchange as much as 1.5 billion ($2 billion) euros of its lower Tier 2 bonds for new, 6.75 percent state- guaranteed notes in euros and pounds due 2012, according to a statement. The tenders will be at 46 percent to 57.5 percent of face value, a capital gain of as much as 450 million euros to go toward the 2.2 billion euros being demanded by regulators.

Ireland is preparing legislation to force subordinated bondholders to “share the burden” of bailouts with taxpayers. Lenders in distress including Lloyds Banking Group Plc have used buybacks to raise capital, and Anglo Irish Bank Plc offered 20 cents on the euro for its subordinated debt.

“As it stands, there is no real ‘stick’ being used to entice bondholder participation,” Glas Securities Ltd. analysts in Dublin said in a note today. “The details of the legislative changes next week could encourage higher participation.”

The Dublin-based bank is tendering for nine securities in total, according to the statement.

It’s offering 51 cents on the euro for the 420 million euros of 4.625 percent notes due 2019 still outstanding, which rose to 48.33 cents today from 44.75 cents yesterday, Bloomberg composite prices show. It will pay 48 cents for its 158 million euros of floating-rate notes due 2017, securities quoted at 44 cents today.

Bank of Ireland will pay as little as 46 cents on the euro for its $327 million of floating-rate notes due 2017 and callable in 2013. These rose 4.75 cents today to 42.25 cents, composite prices on Bloomberg show.

“It will come as some relief to investors that a coercive, more penal approach has not been adopted,” according to Glas. Bank of Ireland will still need as much as 1.8 billion euros of capital after the exchange, meaning “more self-help capital will be required if avoidance of majority government ownership is still an objective. 

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-12-08/...n-of-junior-notes.html

 

 

 

712 Postings, 5732 Tage Jamannn@matse2 : alles klar - willkommen!

 
  
    #1629
08.12.10 18:49

27133 Postings, 6173 Tage brunnetaNews 08.12.2010 18:45

 
  
    #1630
08.12.10 19:08

13648 Postings, 6854 Tage BoMaSieht doch gut aus..

 
  
    #1631
1
08.12.10 20:24
Governor and Company of the Ban
(NYSE: IRE )

Real Time 2.81 Up 0.17 (6.44%) 2:22PM EST

26893 Postings, 5543 Tage hokaifinde ich auch

 
  
    #1632
08.12.10 21:01

512 Postings, 5347 Tage brokeroderpokerin USA bei 2,83....+8% d.h. morgen geht BOI

 
  
    #1633
08.12.10 21:06
über € 0,50....spätestens Freitag!  

5397 Postings, 5773 Tage Jensedas glaube ich definitiv nicht, warum auch, das

 
  
    #1634
08.12.10 22:01
hätte dann heute schon passieren müssen... verstehe nicht warum wir hier so massiv unter pari sind... doie Gewinnmitnahmen udn vorallem den sauberen SK über 2,80 find eich super... das stimmt mich sehr positiv, weiterhin ein guter Trend  

33746 Postings, 5793 Tage Harald9wird morgen wieder grün;

 
  
    #1635
08.12.10 22:42

712 Postings, 5732 Tage Jamannn..

 
  
    #1636
08.12.10 23:10

 Andrea Kramer (akramer@sir-inc.com)

12/8/2010 10:37:39 AM

 

Bank of Ireland (IRE) was bombarded by options players on Tuesday, as the Irish parliament voted on the government's austerity budget. Yesterday afternoon, Irish Finance Minister Brian Lenihan unveiled the country's toughest budget on record, which calls for EUR6 billion in spending cuts and tax increases across all income brackets. This morning, the European Union Commission applauded the new budget, calling it "tough and ambitious."

By Tuesday's closing bell, IRE had seen about 16,000 calls change hands – roughly four times the expected daily call volume. Most popular was the December 3 call, which saw around 3,600 contracts exchanged – 74% of which traded at the ask price, suggesting they were bought. Furthermore, the December 3 strike saw call open interest swell overnight, pointing to freshly opened optimistic positions.

Meanwhile, IRE saw roughly 12,000 puts exchanged yesterday, more than eight times the equity's predicted single-session put activity. A healthy portion of the volume centered on the January 3.98 put, which saw more than 2,900 contracts change hands. However, the majority of the back-month puts traded at the bid price, and put open interest ballooned overnight, hinting at sell-to-open activity. By writing the 3.98-strike puts to open, the sellers are betting IRE will surmount the strike by the time January-dated options expire.

At last check, the shares of IRE have continued their recent rally, tacking on 2.3% to flirt with the $2.70 level.

http://www.schaeffersresearch.com/marketcenters/...ult.aspx?ID=103903

 

 

3677 Postings, 5671 Tage karassdass BOI gut dieser momentanen Lage

 
  
    #1637
08.12.10 23:20
rauskommt halte ich für ziemlich sicher. Hab hier leider keine Zeit den ganzen Tag
news zu lesen. Kann mir jemand erklären warum AIB viel höher steht? irgendwie verstehe
ich das nicht, oder habe ich etwas verpasst?  

712 Postings, 5732 Tage Jamannn@thome76

 
  
    #1638
1
09.12.10 02:21

 zur AIB die News hier: http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/...new-strategy-2450549.html

News ist schon 2 Tage alt, aber zusammen mit der Flowers Ankündigung waren dies die einigen News. Es ist nachvollziehbar, dass wenn die AIB verspätet ihre KE in 2011 durchführt zu 0,5€, die möglichst viele Investoren haben möchte, da den Rest ansonsten der irish. Pensionsfund zeichnet u. somit der Staatsanteil immer größer wird. Laut Schätzungen bei der AIB 95-99,9%. Es gibt sicher ein Interesse die KE attraktiv zu machen und somit den Kurs über 0,5 die nächsten Wochen zu plazieren.

Dass dieser Aufwind der BOI gut tut, versteht sich von selbst. Auch wenn hier von den verbleibenden 1,6Mrd. bei der BOI im worst case Szenario eine KE durchgeführt werden wird in März/April 2011, möchte man dort auch mehr Geld einsammeln und dies lieber zu Preisen 0,5-0,6€ als zu 0,3-0,4€. Somit denke ich wird der Markt sich zwar seine Meinung bilden aber die Kräfte hinter dem Markt werden den Kurs dahin taxen wo sie in haben wollen. Private Investoren wie JCFlowers möchten natürlich günstig rein (bzw. verhandeln direkt mit der jew. Bank), daher kann es in den nächsten Tagen und Wochen schon mal turbulent zugehen, so lange alles über 0,4€-Kursen stattfindet soll es mir recht sein.. Greetz.. 

 

4524 Postings, 5788 Tage woodstock99Halleluja miteinander :)))

 
  
    #1639
6
09.12.10 08:00
also ct mäßig ist des wirklich eine hundsgefickte aktie.. total hinterfotzig  :))))  ........
Angehängte Grafik:
boi.png (verkleinert auf 63%) vergrößern
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6635 Postings, 5696 Tage Kleine_prinzhmm ich hoffe das stimmt ;-)))

 
  
    #1640
3
09.12.10 08:47

Governor and Company of the Ban

(NYSE: IRE )

After Hours: 2.88 Up 0.06 (2.13%) 7:58PM EST

2,88 US-Dollar = 2,16378663 Euro :4 = 0,5409466575 Euro

 

4524 Postings, 5788 Tage woodstock992,88???

 
  
    #1641
2
09.12.10 09:04
ha ha genau geparkt ......
siehe chart ...
ich könnte ja frecken :))..
aber so wie immer hald ...

nur verbrecher hier an der börse!!!!!!!!!!!!

6635 Postings, 5696 Tage Kleine_prinzAnalytiker Tja.. ;-)

 
  
    #1642
3
09.12.10 09:26

Analysts Are Completely Wrong About These Stocks

The Bank of Ireland is fine, the EU has given the Bank of Ireland and [Allied Irish Banks] the tools to move on. If you think the Irish People are going to give up on their bank you may need to move on to another area of business. [Bank of Ireland] and [Allied Irish Banks] will be huge winners in the end. Continue to invest....

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2010/12/08/...these-stocks.aspx

 

6635 Postings, 5696 Tage Kleine_prinzInteressant was Ariva

 
  
    #1643
09.12.10 09:41

so von BOI drin hat so so...

Ich frage mich mit welchen schnaps sie ihre Aktien plegen oder verwenden sie dazu likör?

Aktie & Unternehmen

 

BrancheUniversalbanken
HerkunftIrland
Websitewww.bankofireland.com
Aktienanzahl5,30 Mio. (Stand: 29.11.10)
Marktkap.2,39 Mio. €

BrancheUniversalbanken
HerkunftIrland
Websitewww.bankofireland.com
Aktienanzahl5,30 Mio. (Stand: 29.11.10)
Marktkap.2,39 Mio. €
Indizes/ListenEurostoxx, Meistgesuchte Aktien
 

6635 Postings, 5696 Tage Kleine_prinzAchtung wir schalten den

 
  
    #1644
09.12.10 09:58

Turbogang ein bitte zur seite gehen.. ;-))

 

1063 Postings, 6582 Tage InkmarkerNa ja, die Mk dürfte deutlich höher sein...

 
  
    #1645
09.12.10 09:59

6635 Postings, 5696 Tage Kleine_prinzBOI Anleger kommen zurück :-))

 
  
    #1646
2
09.12.10 10:16

Hier die Erste Analize *g*

 

712 Postings, 5732 Tage Jamannn..

 
  
    #1647
2
09.12.10 10:27

 

BoI's offer 'could raise €750m' as it seeks to fend off state control

 

Thursday December 09 2010

BANK of Ireland could raise up to €750m in equity if the market embraces the bank's newly launched liability-management exercise, stockbrokers NCB said last night.

Yesterday's offer to swap debt from bondholder groups marks the first step along a process that could also see BoI asking shareholders for more money and tapping capital markets.

The bank is trying to raise as much as €2.2bn by the end of February, so that it won't have to accept further government support that could leave it majority state-owned.

Yesterday's offer sees subordinate bondholders who hold €1.5bn of the riskiest debt given the chance to exchange their debt for new government-guaranteed senior debt.

Bondholders are being offered between 48pc and 57.5pc of the nominal value of their debt instruments, reflecting the price the subordinate bonds are already trading at in the market.

Swapping to the new senior debt gives the bondholders security that the will get their money back and neutralises fears of Anglo-style forced haircuts on subordinate debt.

The new senior debt instrument is also due to be repaid in 13 months, giving bondholders their money back far sooner than the subordinate debt instruments, some of which don't mature until 2020.

From BoI's point of view, even though the subordinate bonds are trading at about half their 'face' value, the bank must still record a liability of 100pc of the original loan amount.

Bondholders

If the subordinate bondholders agree to move over to the new instruments' worth, then BoI can book the difference between the face value of the new bonds and the face value of the old ones as a gain.

"Assuming full take-up, we estimate that the group could generate equity in the region of €700m to €750m," NCB banking analyst Ciaran Callaghan wrote in a note to clients last night.

Mr Callaghan added that BoI would be "hoping for a strong participation" in the offer, pointing to the legislation going through the Dail that will force losses on similar debt holders at state-controlled banks.

Debt market investors who have been hugely critical of the forced haircuts and sources say there would be appetite for "voluntary" discounts -- if only because some clients "just want to get out of Ireland".

Investors have until December 17 to sign up to the offer, reflecting the urgency of BoI's capital demands.

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/...tate-control-2454068.html

 

 

 

512 Postings, 5347 Tage brokeroderpokerna, heute noch die 0,50...

 
  
    #1648
09.12.10 10:57
....oder erst morgen?  

712 Postings, 5732 Tage Jamannnmich würde eher der

 
  
    #1649
1
09.12.10 10:59

widerstand bei 0,48 interessieren. Meinungen dazu? 

 

33 Postings, 5104 Tage LOHOKOEXVerehrte Fahrgäste

 
  
    #1650
2
09.12.10 11:03

wir erreichen jetzt Halt 0,48. Achtung Achtung die Türen schließen automatisch.

Nächster Halt 0,50

 

 

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