Lufthansa "Strong buy"
Seit letztem Ausbruch v 200 Jahren war d Vulkan dort angebl. 2 Jahre aktiv !
Käme in Asien noch ein Ausbruch dazu wird`s lustig.. Importgüter über Luftfracht würden knapp werden.
Gegen solche Risiken müssen eben die Unternehmen vorsorgen und Unternehmen die eben mit Hand in Mund leben, müssen eben ggf. Pleite gehen.
Am Ende überleben die Unternehmen, die gut gehaushaltet haben und sich eben mit Übernahmeschlachten a la Porsche, etc. nicht übernehmen.
Ich denke, immer wenn es um Gewinne geht, soll sich die Politik heraushalten und wenn es dann mal Verluste wie bei Opel gibt, dann soll der Staat plötzlich eingreifen.
Am Ende sollen doch die Profiteure der vergangenen Jahre für Krisen wie diese Zahlen und nicht immer der kleine Steuerzahler.
Und wenn die Lufthansa nicht fliegen kann, muss sie eben das Geld der Tickets zurückzahlen, dann freut sich endlich mal die Bahn oder Schifffahrt wieder ;-)
Das Leben ist eben kein Ponyhof ;-)
es werden einnahmeausfälle bis zu 50 mio am tag herumgereicht.
luftströmung und vulkanaktivität sind nicht vorhersehbar.
hedgefonds und andere rüsten zum shortangriff...
alles übel. alles möglich. sicher. die summe der fakten und die stimmung (auch hier) bestätigt mich eher zu kaufen als zu verkaufen. der boden mag nicht gefunden sein.... übertreibungen sind ja an der börse eher regel als ausnahme.
im übrigen werden wohl einige flüge lediglich verschoben, nicht aufgehoben. fraglich insofern, wie weit unter dem strich die summe des umsatzeinbruchs ausfällt. dabei spielen natürlich auch kapazitäten eine wesentliche rolle.
wie wäre es nach freigabe mit der einführung eines vulkanaschezuschlags? :-)
jeder so wie er meint.
Ich kann mir gut vorstellen, dass sich Lufthansa nochmals bis 12,70€ erholt, viele Leute glauben, dass es nur ein kurzer Absacker war und dann der nächste Schub kommt, der dann vor allem vom Gesamtmarkt getrieben wird.
BRUSSELS, April 19 (Reuters) - Glass build-up from last week's volcanic
eruption in Iceland was found in an engine of a NATO F-16 fighter plane,
underscoring dangers to aircraft flying through the ash cloud, a senior U.S.
official said on Monday.
"Allied F-16s were flying and they did find glass build-up," the
official said, but would not provide any information about when the flight took
place. "They found glass in the engine...it was one plane."
"So this is a very, very serious matter that in the not too distant
future will start having real impact on military capabilities ... if the
volcanic ashes ... issue doesn't disappear."
The official did not identify the location or the time of the incident,
or the nationality of the aircraft, except to say that it took place in Europe.
He said the ash cloud had already led to the scaling down of some U.S.
military exercises. "They can fly but it is dangerous," he said.
"I think the airspace is closed for a reason," the official added,
referring to flight bans that have affected much of Europe for the past five
days.
Volcanic ash is abrasive and can strip off aerodynamic surfaces and
paralyse an aircraft engine. It can also damage aircraft electronics and
windshields.
Airline industry group IATA has criticised Europe's response to the ash
cloud and called on Monday for urgent steps to reopen airspace after five days
of closures that have cost airlines $250 million a day.
Dutch airline KLM, which has flown several test flights, said most
European airspace was safe despite the plume of ash, and sent two commercial
freight flights to Asia on Sunday.
The U.S. official said he expected the impact of the ash cloud to be
taken up as part of NATO's agenda.
Officials said the ash cloud had raised doubts about whether a meeting
of the 28 NATO foreign ministers scheduled on Thursday and Friday in Estonia
and due to be attended by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton could take
place.
"She is in the U.S. and has to get here, and it's too late to take a
boat," the U.S. official said.
NATO officials said the flight ban had forced NATO Secretary-General
Anders Fogh Rasmussen to travel by road back to Brussels from Copenhagen at the
weekend, a journey that takes more than 10 hours.
(Reporting by David Brunnstrom, editing by Tim Pearce) Keywords: EUROPE
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FRANKFURT/MAIN (dpa-AFX) - Die Deutsche Lufthansa holt 15.000
gestrandete Passagiere nach Deutschland zurück. 50 Langstrecken-Jets würden in
den nächsten Stunden in Nord- und Südamerika, Afrika und Asien starten. Sie
sollen dann am Dienstagmorgen in Frankfurt, München und Düsseldorf landen, sagte
Lufthansa-Sprecher Andreas Bartels am Montag der Nachrichtenagentur dpa in
Frankfurt./rgo/DP/gr
übermittelt
durch
"Kurzfristig helfen Schulden. Langfristig gehen wir alle tot"
John Maynard Keynes (Brit. Wirtschaftswissenschaftler, 1883-1946)
John Maynard Keynes (Brit. Wirtschaftswissenschaftler, 1883-1946)
Die werden gestärkt aus der Krise hervorgehen
In der Zwischenzeit gehts mit der Lufthansa erstmal runter auf mind. 11,20€ und dann werden wir weitersehen ;-)
http://www.spiegel.de/reise/aktuell/0,1518,689923,00.html
Zudem fehlen noch die Messdaten und es werden meiner Meinung nach nicht viele Flieger fliegen, weil die Situation noch immer sehr chaotisch ist...wer meint, dass es ausgestanden ist irrt sich imo !
Ausserdem siehe postingdes charts und Verkaufsempfehlung von SEB !
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/luftraum138.html
Der Flugbetrieb wird holprig bleiben und die Sache der letzten Tage wird definitiv Nachwirkungen zeigen...
Gibt es schon News zu den Messdaten ?
Was ich nicht verstehe wieso man die Risiken eingeht ohne Messdaten...
Inside job stimmt die Sache mit diesem Militärmanver...hab da was gelesen in einem Blog aber wahrscheinlich Quatsch...
By Peter Apps
LONDON (Reuters) - The economic impact of air travel disruption from a volcanic cloud over Europe depends almost entirely on how long it lasts -- something even experts say they cannot predict.
Below are several scenarios for how events could pan out.
CLOUD CLEARS SWIFTLY
The volcano could cease erupting, simply stop emitting ash, winds could shift away from Europe or the gas cloud could be dispersed unexpectedly quickly -- although so far none of these shows any signs of happening.
Airlines and air freight companies would immediately scramble to make up for lost time, repatriate and relocate passengers, aircraft and cargo.
-- Airlines would still have lost some $200 million a day during the shutdown, the International Air Transport Association says. Airline stocks would likely still fall on Monday as markets took into account losses over the weekend, which were not factored in on Friday.
-- Even if the cloud clears, some travel will still be cancelled in the coming days. Some firms are asking employees to cancel non-essential European flights over the next 7-10 days.
-- Airlines might show greater interest in taking out cancellation insurance. German insurer Munich Re told Reuters on Friday it could offer such insurance easily if recent events produced the demand.
CLOUD CLEARS, ERUPTION CONTINUES
Experts warn that as long as the eruption continues, the risk remains that a renewed outflow of ash or certain wind patterns could produce the same effect again in the coming months.
This time, airlines would be less taken aback but there would still be little they could do to prepare. The threat of a renewed shutdown might deter both business and leisure travellers from booking flights, holidays and hotels, hitting the industry even if the cloud itself never returned.
-- Airline industry stocks could underperform as markets factor in a risk premium. Rail, road, sea cargo and teleconference firms could see an increase in demand.
-- Firms might take on additional stocks to reduce their reliance on "just-in-time" resupply by air cargo.
-- Any return of the cloud would again hit airline and travel stocks as well as potentially undermining regional growth.
-- Much would depend on whether the current eruption triggers Iceland's nearby and much larger Katla volcano, further increasing the potential impact.
CLOUD REMAINS, EUROPE REMAINS SHUT DOWN
If the cloud remains stubbornly over Europe for a sustained period of time, perhaps weeks or longer, the travel sector would take a serious hit. Wider industries would also be affected from high-tech manufacturing to supermarkets and event organisers.
-- This would be devastating news for the airline sector, possibly driving some of the weakest operators to the wall.
-- Overall European growth might be affected, slowing the recovery from recession. Already heavily indebted governments would struggle to find the funds for support programmes. Europe might lag further behind the rest of the world in the global recovery.
-- Teleconference, shipping, rail and road transport operators would benefit. So would airports just outside the cloud, suddenly in great demand from airlines and shipping firms as new hubs. That could benefit countries along the edge of the cloud including Ukraine, Turkey, as well as Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain -- the euro zone fringe economies worst hit by the financial crisis. Britain's Royal Mail is already shipping and trucking airmail to the United States to Spain for onward flights.
-- Western military resupply flights to Afghanistan would be heavily affected. Western European troop contributors would become entirely dependent on the United States for supplies and medical evacuation flights. U.S. forces would also be heavily affected if they could no longer use their logistics and medical centre in Ramstein, Germany. This comes days after an uprising in Kyrgyzstan ushered in a pro-Russian government that may want the U.S. to vacate its Manas airbase there, another key hub.
-- Major international meetings may have to be cancelled, rescheduled or simply go ahead without senior European policymakers. That might further weaken Europe's geopolitical relevance at a time when it is already threatened by the rise of emerging economies and internal differences over dealing with the Greek debt crisis.