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27134 Postings, 6181 Tage brunneta@jezkimi an der Börse ist alles möglich!!

 
  
    #3351
05.05.09 08:58

51 Postings, 5705 Tage I want to belivealso

 
  
    #3352
05.05.09 09:24
ich hab meine infinion noch

ich brauche dringend ein riesengrinsesmily  

201 Postings, 5932 Tage hobbyAktionärjezkimi

 
  
    #3353
05.05.09 09:31
kauft man für den gleichen Geldbetrag diese Aktie zu 0,38 nach, müssen sie nur ca. um 100 % steigen. Also so viel Verlust kann die Krise einem Privatanleger gar nicht gebracht haben können. Man muss halt immer was im Ärmel  haben ;-) ..  

7903 Postings, 6304 Tage jezkimihobbyaktionär

 
  
    #3354
05.05.09 09:39
Nur ..... wer kauft schon 27.000 Stück zu 0,38
Ich habe diese traute nicht. Denn es könnte ja auf Null gehen und mein Invest wäre zweimal weg. Oder mein Ärmel wäre dann leer.

78 Postings, 5710 Tage player1442scheiß Citi

 
  
    #3355
05.05.09 09:49
Versteh ich nicht, warum die scheiß Citi da bei 2.4 rumdümpelt, alle anderen Banken steigen 10-20% und die Citi selbst AIG ist schon 14% im Plus! Echt lächerlich scheiß Shorties°  

7903 Postings, 6304 Tage jezkimiplayer1442

 
  
    #3356
1
05.05.09 09:54
Das sind nicht die Shorties. Die Guten Nachrichten zu der einst grössten US Bank fehlen. Alle sind verunsichert wie es weiter geht. Braucht der Laden schon wieder ne Finanzspritze um Bonus zu zahlen? Da bekommt jeder das Grausen bei solch einem Management.

254 Postings, 5702 Tage Tayfun777meint Ihr erst am Donnerstag

 
  
    #3357
05.05.09 09:58
wird die Aktie über 3 Euro fahren?  

577 Postings, 5759 Tage Cityboywäre schön aber

 
  
    #3358
05.05.09 10:04
meiner Meinung nach geht sie gar nicht über 3€  

254 Postings, 5702 Tage Tayfun777naja

 
  
    #3359
1
05.05.09 10:20
 warten wir mal die Woche ab . Seit 3 Wochen verdiene ich nichts wegen der scheiss Aktie hier .  

577 Postings, 5759 Tage Cityboy...

 
  
    #3360
1
05.05.09 10:23

weitere 4000€ reingesteckt scheiss drauf. komme was wolle.

was ich mir dafür alles kaufen könnte...naja

 

254 Postings, 5702 Tage Tayfun777NUR 1 Euro

 
  
    #3361
05.05.09 10:27
hoch dann bin ich Reich juhuuu  

577 Postings, 5759 Tage Cityboymit welcher Stückzahl

 
  
    #3362
05.05.09 10:35
bist du denn drin?  

160 Postings, 5872 Tage Dragan83mal sehen...

 
  
    #3363
05.05.09 10:43

...was der stresstest heut für uns bringt. heute könnte die fahrt nach norden oder süden gehen.

@taifun

 

reich bedeutet, dass du mit einem euro mehr 1 mille machst...^^

 

48 Postings, 5706 Tage hotfrogmöchte jetzt einsteigen...

 
  
    #3364
05.05.09 10:48
habe gerade vor 18.000 Stück zu kaufen, kann mir jemand davon abraten?
hotfrog;)  

201 Postings, 5932 Tage hobbyAktionärlass den Tayfun sich doch reich füllen

 
  
    #3365
05.05.09 10:49
..reich ist doch relativ bei manchen heißt +50% reich bei anderen erst ab +500%...  

577 Postings, 5759 Tage Cityboyja ich

 
  
    #3366
05.05.09 10:50

teile die menge wie folgt auf:

6000 RBS
6000 Citigroup
6000 Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac

 

8595 Postings, 5904 Tage hollewutzwenn ihr zwischendurch

 
  
    #3367
05.05.09 10:51
mal was fundamentales auf der Pfanne habt wäre ich euch dankbar!

Dieses ewige hoch und runter wieviel hast du wiel investiertst du dafür gibt es die BM Funktion

gutgemeinter Tip!

euch weiter viel Erfolg

48 Postings, 5706 Tage hotfrogmöchte jetzt einsteigen...

 
  
    #3368
05.05.09 10:51
zu spät habe es schon gerade getan....
18000 stück und hoffe das Teil wird heute steigen;)  

33 Postings, 5711 Tage noob123@dragan83. Egal wohin hauptsache bewegung !

 
  
    #3369
05.05.09 10:52
 

160 Postings, 5872 Tage Dragan83noob123...

 
  
    #3370
05.05.09 11:02

...

 

naja also mir isses net egal, da ich eigentlich steigende kurse möchte. hier wird sich bis zur eröffnung im amiland eh net mehr viel tun. 

 

@hotfrog

 

auf lange sicht wirst du gut gewinn machen. obs kurzfristig so ist bringt die zeit^^ ich selbst bin auch bei 2,32 rein.

 

577 Postings, 5759 Tage Cityboy...

 
  
    #3371
05.05.09 11:05

May 5 (Bloomberg) -- UBS AG, the European bank with the biggest writedowns from the financial crisis, reported a first- quarter loss and said bad loans may rise further as the global economy deteriorates.

Loans to Swiss companies and to finance leveraged buyouts may lead to higher provisions later this year, the Zurich-based company said today. UBS, Switzerland’s largest bank by assets, posted a net loss of 1.98 billion Swiss francs ($1.75 billion) in the quarter, matching an estimate provided on April 15.

Chief Executive Officer Oswald Gruebel has announced 7,500 job cuts, replaced two executive board members and sold UBS’s Brazilian business since he was hired in February. He told shareholders at the annual meeting last month that restoring profitability is UBS’s “most urgent” task as it tries to regain the confidence of clients and investors.

“Gruebel is heading in the right direction, but he still has his work cut out for him,” said Wolfgang Matejka, who oversees about $3 billion as chief investment officer at Meinl Bank in Vienna. “To lose your reputation is easy but to regain it is a hell of a job.”

UBS rose 49 cents, or 3.1 percent, to 16.2 francs by 9:37 a.m. in Swiss trading, compared with a 2.1 percent increase in Bloomberg’s European banks index. UBS gained 9 percent this year, trailing the 57 percent advance in Credit Suisse Group AG, which surpassed UBS as the largest Swiss bank by market value.

Credit Suisse

Credit Suisse reported a first-quarter profit of 2 billion francs, beating analysts’ estimates on record trading revenue. Brady Dougan, 49, who succeeded Gruebel as Credit Suisse CEO in 2007, said the bank is “exceptionally well” positioned, although markets remain “challenging” for the entire industry.

UBS said a $1.7 billion writedown tied to bond insurers, or monolines, and 1.14 billion francs in credit-loss provisions hurt earnings in the first quarter. The bank also booked a 631 million-franc goodwill impairment on the sale of the Brazilian Pactual unit.

“At the investment bank and the Swiss bank there will be continuing headwinds in relation to credit extension,” Chief Financial Officer John Cryan told journalists on a conference call. Leveraged finance commitments “remain one of our concern areas and risk concentrations, together with monolines.”

The investment-banking division narrowed its pretax loss to 3.16 billion francs in the quarter from 18.2 billion francs in the year-earlier period. Profit at the wealth management and Swiss bank unit fell 45 percent to 1.1 billion francs, while wealth management Americas and asset management reported pretax losses of 35 million francs and 59 million francs, respectively.

Job Cuts

The latest round of job cuts at UBS, the fifth since the credit crisis began and the largest since the 1998 merger that created the bank, will help save as much as 4 billion francs by the end of next year. Gruebel, 65, is reviewing UBS operations and may exit some “high-risk” businesses and locations.

UBS will take a charge of about 650 million francs in the second quarter for reorganization measures and severance costs, up from 184 million francs in the first quarter.

“There are some relatively small businesses -- I’m not talking about divisions -- which are not really core to us, and which we could look to sell in the course of the year,” Cryan said, adding there is “nothing in the works at the moment.”

UBS aims to reduce the workforce by about 4,000 from year- end levels at the wealth management and Swiss bank division, by 2,500 at each the investment banking and wealth management Americas units, and by about 500 each in asset management and in the corporate center.

‘Important Steps’

“These are important steps that had to be taken, and it’s clear that these measures couldn’t have been taken by the old management,” said Marco Bider, a fund manager who helps oversee about $7 billion, including UBS shares, at Banque CIC in Basel. “Gruebel doesn’t owe anyone anything at the bank.”

Gruebel replaced Marcel Rohner, 44, who left the bank after holding the CEO post for 19 months. UBS shareholders elected former Finance Minister Kaspar Villiger, 68, as chairman of UBS’s board of directors last month. He replaced Peter Kurer, 59, who left after a year in the job amid a probe into whether UBS helped wealthy Americans evade taxes.

UBS reached a settlement in February with U.S. authorities that required the bank to hand over the names of about 300 American clients.

Customers withdrew 23.4 billion francs from the main wealth management and Swiss bank unit in the first quarter. Clients at wealth management Americas added 16.2 billion francs in the period after the bank hired 400 new brokers in the fourth quarter. The units saw a net outflow of 123 billion francs in 2008.

‘Image Problem’

“It’s not only a question of bringing the company back into the black, it’s a question of credibility,” said Raoul Paglia, a fund manager at BSI SA in Lugano, who helps oversee about $62 billion, including UBS shares. “They have an image problem. They have to try to restore it.”

UBS dropped off the list of the 100 most valuable brand names in the latest annual ranking released by Geneva-based Millward Brown Optimor last week. The brand was ranked 64th last year and 51st in 2007.

Before this year, the company had amassed more than $50 billion in losses and writedowns, the most of any European bank in the credit crisis, and had to raise more than $32 billion in fresh capital from investors including the Swiss government.

Gruebel last month hired Ulrich Koerner, 46, as chief operating officer, tapping a former colleague who helped him turn around Credit Suisse six years ago and replacing Walter Stuerzinger, 53, UBS’s chief risk officer between 2001 and October 2007.

UBS named Alexander Wilmot-Sitwell, 48, and Carsten Kengeter, 42, co-heads of the investment bank last week, replacing 52-year-old Jerker Johansson after a year on the job.

The bank also agreed to sell UBS Pactual in Brazil to an investment company run by the division’s former head, Andre Esteves, to reduce risk and free up capital less than three years after UBS bought the business.

 

96 Postings, 5794 Tage LonesomeLiftboyIn Citi investieren?

 
  
    #3372
05.05.09 11:12

Man sollte nicht mehr investieren, als man sich leisten kann zu verlieren.

   Alles auf die 871904 statt alles auf die 13 ;-)

 

577 Postings, 5759 Tage Cityboykleiner tip

 
  
    #3373
05.05.09 11:28
Adidas wird gerade interessant.  

459 Postings, 6488 Tage xmenEuro 2.47

 
  
    #3374
05.05.09 11:58

 

ein Witz........

 

 

 

 

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33 Postings, 5711 Tage noob123Dragan83

 
  
    #3375
05.05.09 12:06

du muss das von meiner seite auch sehen .... fallen wir unter 2euro kaufe ich nochmal soviel nach , geht auf die 3euro los kann ich mir aus diesen gewinn was anders dafür kaufen ! 

für mich sind beide richtungen i.o. weil is ende des jahres rechne ich sowieso mit 100% gewinn ;) 

 

 

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