Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher?
auf meinem roten Inquisitoren Ledersofa mitm I Phone getippelt.
Schade dass du bei ILP löhnen musstest. Is schon heiss, die leidige Iren Story.
Im kleinen Kirchlein meiner Schaumburg
werd zittrig fromm die Hände falten,
und beten für euch traurigen Seelen
des teufels Schabernak ereilt euch Alten
und Jungen gar zugleich,
nur einer kann euch da noch retten
Gnädig liebt er Arm und Reich.
So weinen wir der Klage wegen
was weggenommen, so ein Hohn
erbeten fröhlich Gottes Segen
vom Himmel Gnad und heiligen Lohn.
Zurück im Schaume-burges Bade
wird bigbäng sanft die Augen schliessen
und träumend von der Bundeslade
die Worte in mein Herze fliessen.
Liebe dann ein Sturm entfacht
und alles nimmt was Sorgen macht.
Den Gottes herrlich Seeligkeit,
hält kein Geld, noch Gold bereit.
Gruss an dich Chalif, nimms nicht so schwer,
es gibt wichtigere Dinge auf unserer Welt.
Wer sich im Geiste übt und fastet wird nicht fett und
gewinnt eine fröhliche Seele. Werde heute noch ne tibetische Farbenmeditation
durchziehen. Sie reinigt den Körper und Geist vom Schmutz der Welt.
Gruss bigbäng
Thursday 9th June 2011. The High Court has today granted a direction order to the Minister for Finance, Mr Michael Noonan TD, in respect of Irish Life & Permanent plc ("IL&P"). The direction order, which will have effect 5 working days from today, was granted pursuant to Section 9 of the Credit Institutions (Stabilisation) Act 2010.
Irish Life innerhalb der nächsten 5 Tag zur Entscheidung bringen???
nervlicher Anspannung schäum ich kräftig ein, höre klassische Musik und
zünde Räucherstäbchen an. Dass lüftet Kopf und Seele.
Über Preisvorschläge habe ich bisher nichts.
gibt. Aber warum dann dieser Ausverkauf? Verstehe das ganze nicht.
Das Problem sind wahrscheinlich die großen Aktionäre - z.B. Allianz - die ihre Positionen liquidieren. Das ist zwar falsch, da die KE des Staates sich am Börsenkurs orientiert, aber das interessiert sie nicht.
Interessant ist auch, dass die heutige Gerichtsentscheidung nicht von der Regierung, sondern von irish life selbst beantragt wurde. Aber auch da kann man nur spekulieren, ob die Vorgespräche zum Verkauf schon so weit sind, dass man diesen Weg geht.
On Thursday, Mr. Noonan said Irish Life & Permanent asked him to use the so-called Credit Institutions Stabilization law to allow it spin off its assurance unit through an initial public offering or a private sale.
http://online.wsj.com/article/...2702304259304576375471043504528.html
Scotchstone Capital Fund organisiert diesen mittlerweile-
Habe mich mittlerweile dort Registriert und bin bei den 12 % der Stimmrechtevertreten die für die Rechte der Aktionäre eintreten -
Sehr Informative Informationsquelle:
http://www.ilpshareholders.com/
Und diese 2,5 MRD kommen vom Staat,im Verhältnis nur aktuellen MK von 16 Mio aber gigantisch,d.h. der Staatsanteil wird bei 99% liegen und das wiederum heisst totalverlust für uns bzw. euch,denn ich bin seit heute raus .....
MFG
Chali
Beispiel Möglichkeiten das Kapital aufzubringen :
1. Verkauf der Versicherungstochter - Wert etwa 2 Mrd. oder mehr - gegen Zahlung von 1 Mrd. und einem langfristigen Darlehen von 3 Mrd. zu 1 %. Das Darlehen würde als Tier I Kapital den Staat überflüssig machen und könnte von ILP / TSB in Irland verliehen werden.
2. Verkauf der Versicherungstochter - Wert etwa 2 Mrd. oder mehr - gegen Bezahlung in irischen 10 jährigen Staatsanleihen mit dem Nennwert 3 Mrd. €. ILP / TSB könnte die Anleihen direkt bei der EZB zur Refinanzierung einreichen und mit dem Geld in Irland arbeiten und der Staat wäre für die Kapitalbeschaffung nicht notwendig.
3. Bereitstellung eines 3 Mrd. Darlehens durch große Versicherungen gegen 5% Zins und gesichert durch irish life Leben.
Der Staat kann hier nicht aller Washington M. Den Verkauf oder den Hinweis
auf eine drohende Pleite verweisen-
Wie die Eigenkapitalanforderung von Oktober von 400.000 EUR zu den
jüngsten Stress Test bei den Prüfungen die PTSB Bank auf 5Millarden im März 2011 kommen Eigenkapitalanforderungen -bleibt wohl deren Geheimnis-
IL & P ist nicht Zahlungsunfähig und ist lebensfähig mit dem Zwei-Säulen-Geschäft . Derzeit sollen wohl die Anleihen wohl den härtesten Schnitt bekommen.
Also hier wird noch einiges passieren –
1. Keine Ausleihungen an Griechenland / Portugal oder anderswo - nur an Häuslebauer in Irland.
2. Die Tracker Hypotheken haben zwar einen niedrigen Zinssatz - aber dadurch auch eine drastisch niedrigere Ausfallquote, da die Schuldner diesen Zinssatz nicht verlieren wollen.
Nicht erklärbar ist lediglich, dass die Großanleger diesen Kursrückgang zulassen - immerhin steigt durch die niedrigen Kurse die Wahrscheinlichkeit, dass der irische Staat Fakten schafft und sich die niedrigen Kurse per Kapitalerhöhung sichert.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2011/...224297465846.html
http://www.cnbc.com/id/43358068
Bei dieser drastischen Ungleichbehandlung von privaten Firmen fragt man sich sehr nachdenklich: Welche Auswirkungen hat das auf Europa un die benötigten Kapitalströme?
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0617/ilp-business.html
Alan Cook, Irish Life and Permanent's new chairman, said the group's financial state has gone through a massive transformation since last autumn.
He said the requirement for funding, going up from €243m to an 'astonishing' €4 billion, means that the group's challenges are now at a much higher level.
He said: 'We do not have a choice but to take whatever steps are necessary to raise that €4 billion, the balance will be provided by the Irish State.
Mr Cook told shareholders he expects the group will have to rely on the government for capital support of up to €2.5 billion.
ILP plans to sell its life and pensions business.
Mr Cook assured shareholders that he was been selected by the board, and then interviewed by both the Central Bank and the Minister for Finance before he was named chairman.
He said the reality is that the bank stress test criteria have been argued through.
He said: 'I've reviewed the debate and discussion. The task ahead is exceptionally challenging. 'It's a significant task that we now go through the process of raising the €4 billion in the most logical way possible.'
Mr Cook said he did not want to give shareholders the impression that the group would walk away from raising the additional €4 billion in capital.
A small group of Irish Life and Permanent shareholders was unsuccessful in having a motion passed to adjourn the group's annual general meeting.
The group had questioned the ILP board's commitment to raising €4 billion under the capital requirements set out by the Central Bank in March; it has also wanted the group's registrars to be supervised when counting votes at meetings and the electronic voting devices replaced by a show of hands.
Earlier, a shareholder proposed that the company's annual general meeting be adjourned until all of the group's board members confirm that they stand behind the group's intention to raise €4 billion in new capital.
The shareholder wanted the group's board to try to avoid raising the €4 billion that the Central Bank has said ILP needs in new capital.
Another shareholder said the reason most people in the room are extremely annoyed with the situation is that last September a stress test was done and six months later another stress test said the capital requirement was 16 times bigger.
He said: 'Either the stress test of last September was an utter joke, or the most recent one was. It's as simple as that.'
Arrears on Irish mortgage book still rising
Irish Life & Permanent said that arrears in its Irish residential and commercial mortgage books are continuing to rise.
In an interim management statement ahead of its AGM in Dublin today, it said that the Irish residential mortgage arrears over 90 days increased by 17% to 13,500 by the end of April. Early arrears - under 90 days - have risen from 4,800 cases in December to just over 5,000 by the end of April.
ILP said that lending demand for its home mortgages and consumer finance continues to be extremely weak and new advances during the first three months of the year are 40% lower than the same time last year.
It said that based on trends to date, provisions for bad debts are expected to be broadly in line with the 2010. It said the total impairments over the next three years will be €1.2 billion, of which about €620m will occur this year.
The company said that the life and investment management business are performing broadly in line with expectations. But it added that the impact of budgetary changes on customers' incomes has led to the 'weaker persistency experience' in the retail life business.
It said the acquisition of the Irish Nationwide Building Society deposit balances in February has been positive for the bank's banking business but funding conditions continue to be 'challenging'.
Irish Life and Permanent says that while it believes the worst of the recession is over in Ireland, it expects the recovery in 2011 to be modest with continued weakness in domestic demand and consumer sentiment. This, though, will be partially offset by a strong export sector performance.
Shares in Irish Life and Permanent closed up 5.9% to 13 cent in Dublin this afternoon.
Noch einmal, da der link nicht funktionierte:
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/...-in-jeopardy-2800068.html
By Nick Webb and louise McBride - Sunday June 19 2011
THE Greek sovereign debt crisis may derail the planned €1.7bn float of IL&P's insurance business Irish Life later this year.
The already wobbly flotation plan has also been hit by Finance Minister Michael Noonan's statement that bondholders in Anglo irish Bank and Irish Nationwide could be torched.
Kevin Murphy's company has been given an October deadline to resolve its capital position, where it needs to raise €4bn.
Last Friday, Irish Life & Permanent's share price had fallen so far that the entire company was worth just €19m.
Speaking to the Sunday Independent, a senior investment banker said: "Irish Life won't go to IPO. They won't get anything like the valuation they are looking for that way. They are talking about a value of €1.7bn or so, they won't get anything like that."
Simon Adamson, senior bank analyst with the British research firm Credit Sights, believes the sale of Irish Life and the completion of a successful rights issue at Bank of Ireland will "be very difficult to achieve -- whether or not the Greek situation eases or deteriorates".
"Concern around Greece has a knock-on effect on sentiment in the wider financial markets," said Mr Adamson. "I'd be very sceptical about the chances of a sale or initial public offering (IPO) in these markets. As for Bank of Ireland, if concern grows about Irish sovereign risk (because of Greece or other factors), the attraction of the rights issue will diminish."
A senior insurance executive also dismissed suggestions that the Government would be able to recoup more than €1.5bn by floating the Irish Life unit later this year. "They would be lucky to get €1bn," he said.
Other financiers told the Sunday Independent that Irish Life would be more likely to be offloaded through a trade sale rather than a stock market flotation. It is believed that a number of US insurers, including Met Life, are monitoring the situation.
"There is very little appetite among investors for equity in banks," said Bruce Packard, an analyst at the London investment bank Seymour Pierce. "It is right that the system needs to be recapitalised, but many fund managers feel that equity at the bottom of the capital structure is an unattractive investment. Before the credit crisis, investors were prepared to give banks the benefit of the doubt; now the burden of proof has shifted, and investors would rather believe in a celestial teapot revolving around the sun in an elliptical orbit."
IL&P sources stressed that the Irish Life unit was "not a bank" and that it had "huge inherent value".
But IL&P's advisers at Deutsche Bank will be intensely aware of the almost farcical attempts by European leaders to hammer out another convoluted solution to the Greek debt crisis this weekend. Last Friday Nicolas Sarkozy and Angela Merkel agreed an outline deal where Greek bondholders could extend the maturities of their debt.
"The period is resembling the build-up to the Lehman collapse," said Deutsche Bank strategist Jim Reid last week.
The prospect of Greece defaulting on some of its debt is rising fast. This may lead to another banking crisis as banks across Europe and the US have major holdings of Greek debt.
Foreign banks own €1.8 trillion worth of debt issued by Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece. A euro-wide default or haircuts on these debts would spark a global banking crisis as banks would struggle to absorb the losses.
"The disunity within the EU corridors of power, as well as the political and social upheaval in Greece, has shaken the markets," Gavan Nolan, credit analyst at Markit, said last week. "The plight of Greece and the panic in the sovereign market has brought the risk of contagion to the fore again."
- Nick Webb and louise McBride
Ideal wäre ein Wandeldarlehen - alternativ eine Erhöhung des ILP Kapitals durch zur Verfügungstellung einer Staatsanleihe, die ILP dann bei der EZB refinanziert.
Worst case wäre eine Kapitalaufstockung gegen zusätzliche Aktien wegen des gegenwärtigen niedrigen Aktienkurses.