Irish Life&Per. Unentdeckter Vervielfacher?
Ist eigentlich jemanden aufgefallen das in den letzten 2 Tagen sich jemand dicke hier einkauft?
17:35:08 0,118 250.000 1.160.150
15:11:07 0,118 50.000 877.027
15:11:04 0,118 50.000 827.027
15:11:02 0,118 50.000 777.027
15:09:35 0,118 100.000 727.027
13:37:51 0,118 150.000 589.977
"Es gibt keine Vorschläge zu den Business geben Boni auf den Verkauf der", so der Abteilung Finanzen .
Irish Life & Permanent gemietet Beratungsunternehmen Towers Watson, eine Überprüfung der Vergütung von Managern, einschließlich der Zahlung von Prämien führen. Der Bericht wird in Kürze erwartet.
Letzte Woche wurde bekannt, dass die Deutsche Bank als Unternehmen ernannt worden ist Berater des vor dem geplanten Börsengang, der ist NTMA wird beaufsichtigt durch. Allerdings ist es verständlich, daß ein Trade Sale auch erwogen wird.
Die irische Versicherungswirtschaft steht vor großen Veränderungen mit Liberty Mutual Life kürzlich Kauf Quinn mit Anglo Irish Bank , während die staatlichen Krankenversicherung VHI werden unter Umständen zum Verkauf. Es wird vermutet, dass eine Gruppe von großen amerikanischen und europäischen Versicherungsunternehmen sowie Private-Equity-Spieler, sind die Überwachung des Prozesses.
Eine Reihe wichtiger Irish Life & Permanent Führungskräfte gedacht, werden begierig auf die Irish Life Seite des Geschäfts, die derzeit deaktiviert ist ein 4 Milliarden € Loch in die Kassen zu füllen verkauft bewegen. Die Permanent TSB Bank Arm wird wahrscheinlich mit AIB oder eine neue Einheit nach dem Schwimmer zusammengeführt werden.
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/...h-life-float-2654187.html
Heisst nicht mehr oder weniger, daß einige an einen Verkauf interessiert sind. Was noch lange nicht bedeutet, daß sie verkauft wird
http://www.ilpshareholders.com/ol.pdf
Aus Irish Times 25.05.2011:
SIMON CARSWELL
A DISSIDENT Irish Life & Permanent (IL&P) shareholder leading a campaign to limit investor losses in the group’s €4 billion recapitalisation has claimed it is “a form of institutionalised theft” in a letter to the Government and State authorities.
Piotr Skoczylas, managing director of Scotchstone, wrote to Minister for Finance Michael Noonan and Central Bank governor Patrick Honohan yesterday, claiming his campaign is supported by shareholders with more than 9 per cent of IL&P’s shares.
He argues that the Central Bank’s stress tests had resulted in an “artificially high capital requirement” which is 16 times higher than the capital bill set following last November’s stress tests.
Mr Skoczylas, who spoke against the recapitalisation at last week’s IL&P annual meeting, claims the company is not insolvent and will in fact be overcapitalised by the recapitalisation, a condition of the EU-IMF bailout.
“This recapitalisation may possibly turn into an inequitable huge transfer of wealth from the current IL&P shareholders to the Irish exchequer, which would have nothing do with protecting the Irish taxpayer,” he wrote.
His letter was copied to Taoiseach Enda Kenny, National Treasury Management Agency chief executive John Corrigan and secretary general of the Department of Finance Kevin Cardiff.
The capital target to be raised by IL&P will lead to the break-up of the group with the sale of Irish Life, which is estimated to raise €1.5 billion, leaving €2.5 billion to come from the Government. This will result in the company ceding control to the Government and the dilution or the wiping out of shareholders’ investments.
By Laura Noonan
Friday May 27 2011
THE Government is considering pumping as much as €4bn into Irish Life & Permanent at the end of July and clawing back some of the cash later in the year when the plc's life insurance business is sold.
The news comes amid growing acceptance that there is a "strong possibility" that IL&P will not hit its target of selling off Irish Life Assurance by the end of July.
The latest memorandum of understanding agreed with the European authorities and the International Monetary Fund clears the way for the Government to partially recapitalise IL&P in July, allowing a credit for the life insurance sale.
The Irish Independent understands, however, that this option is seen as problematic since it could prejudice the sale of Irish Life Assurance by giving the market an indication of what price would be acceptable.
The Government is now understood to be considering putting the entire €4bn into IL&P at the end of July, and then clawing back the extra capital when the life insurance business is sold.
A spokesman for the Department of Finance declined to comment beyond pointing to the memorandum of understanding which allows for partial recapitalisation pending the sale of Irish Life Assurance by the end of October.
A spokesman for IL&P declined to comment, as did a spokesman for the National Treasury Management Agency.
IL&P has engaged Deutsche Bank to "explore" options for selling Irish Life Assurance through a trade sale or flotation.
A flotation was initially seen as the preferred option, but a trade sale is seen as increasingly likely given the dire market sentiment towards Ireland at present.
Likely bidders in a trade sale include Zurich, which previously expressed an interest in buying New Ireland from Bank of Ireland, as well as other Irish insurers who aren't currently in the life insurance market.
Irish Life Assurance is also believed to have attracted some interest from insurance companies who are not currently in the Irish market, and may prove attractive to venture capitalists.
The life insurance company has an embedded value of about €1.7bn, but may be worth more if it is successful in its bid for Quinn Insurance's healthcare arm.
- Laura Noonan
Irish Independent
Industry heavyweights join board of Irish Life unit
By Laura Noonan
Monday May 30 2011
IRISH Life & Permanent has begun beefing up the board of its life insurance subsidiary ahead of a planned trade sale, or stock market flotation, of the business later this year.
Documents lodged with the Companies Office show Irish Life Assurance (ILA) added former Canada Life Ireland boss Tom Barry and former Bank of Ireland Life boss Brian Forrester to its board in April.
The appointments came days after the Central Bank's stress tests revealed that Irish Life & Permanent (IL&P) needed €4bn of extra capital -- a demand that would force the group to sell off its life insurance arm.
Mr Barry and Mr Forrester are the first directors of Irish Life Assurance not to sit on the main IL&P board.
In a statement yesterday, a spokesman for IL&P said the group had been "working to strengthen the ILA board as a distinct entity" as part of a corporate governance programme.
Market sources believe the arrival of Mr Barry and Mr Forrester could strengthen Irish Life Assurance's hand when the company tries to whet investor appetite for a sale or flotation.
The duo also have strong contacts in the life-insurance industry. Mr Barry has spent more than 25 years in life insurance, and is well known to Canada Life's massive parent company, Great West Life Co.
Mr Barry is also a director of three of the Irish offshoots of Dutch financial giant Eureko.
Mr Forrester spent eight years with Bank of Ireland Life and was recently drafted in to spearhead a review of the bank's heavily indebted pension scheme.
Separate filings at the Companies Office show Irish Life registered a new company last October which would carry out both life insurance and health insurance.
The plc's spokesman stressed that Irish Life Financial Services was still subject to Central Bank authorisation.
- Laura Noonan
Irish Independent
Bank of Ireland plunges after buyback plan spooks market
BoI targets €2.6bn of subordinated bonds in aggressive move that pushes shares to all-time low of 14 cent
By Donal O'Donovan
Wednesday June 01 2011
BANK of Ireland shares hit an all-time low yesterday as its shareholders face significant dilution, under a "burden-sharing" deal.
Shares plunged after the bank launched an aggressive offer aimed at cutting €2.6bn of subordinated debt, mostly by handing shares to bondholders.
It means current shareholders will see their stake diluted. BoI shares fell more than 20pc in a matter of hours after the news, to hit the all-time low of just 14 cent each.
The offer is part of the effort to cut the cost to the State of bailing out banks, by forcing some of the losses on private-sector investors, including subordinated bondholders and current shareholders.
Yesterday, BoI said it would offer to buy back and cancel €2.6bn of subordinated bonds. It will offer cash prices of 10 cent in the euro for 'Tier 1' securities and 20 cent in the euro for 'Tier 2' debt.
The cash-offer price does not include any accrued interest.
Bondholders that opt to be paid in bank shares instead of cash will get a better deal, however. The offer to swap bonds for shares has not yet been set, but the bank said it would be at a premium to the cash offer and would include a consideration for unpaid interest.
The cash price on offer is aggressively low. The 20 cent in the euro for the Tier 2 bonds compares to the 50 cent in the euro which the bonds were being traded for just before the terms were announced.
By yesterday afternoon the same bonds were trading at 37 to 40 cent in the euro. That's still well above the 20 cent per euro cash price.
The offer will include a clause to give the bank powers to hit bondholders that reject the deal with even bigger losses.
One bond trader said yesterday's bond prices reflected uncertainty about the final offer terms, as well as an effort by the market to estimate the value of the share offer.
Shares fell because the bond offer made it likely that the bank's current shareholders would end up with a smaller, less valuable stake.
The terms of the exchange offer will be finalised and launched to the market within days, according to people at the bank.
The buyback offer is part of the "burden sharing" the Government is using to reduce the overall cost to the taxpayer of recapitalising the banks.
BoI needs to raise €4.2bn in fresh cash in order to comply with tough new Central Bank rules. The buyback will help because the difference between the offer price and the face value of the bonds is counted as a profit for the bank.
If all of the subordinated bondholders take shares instead of cash it could end up costing the Government nothing.
However, even if all of the bonds are swapped for shares BoI still needs to raise a further €1.6bn in cash either from new investors, existing private sector shareholders, or the State.
Majority
It's not yet clear how large a share of the bank bondholders could end up controlling.
A source familiar with the deal said he did not expect bondholders to end up with a majority share.
If the deal succeeds, the Government will avoid raising its stake in the bank above the current 39pc shareholding.
Irish Life & Permanent (LI&P) and EBS Building Society also announced deals to impose losses of between 80pc and 90pc on their subordinated bondholders.
IL&P said it would offer lenders owed €840m of debt 20pc of the original value.
EBS will buy back around €260m of its subordinated bonds, at 10pc and 20pc of face value.
Finance minister Michael Noonan is pushing ahead with the buy backs in spite of legal efforts to block an earlier buyback of AIB bonds.
Investors Aurelius and Abadi are still waiting to go to court with their legal challenge to try to halt the buyback of AIB bonds.
- Donal O'Donovan
Irish Independent
MFG
Chali
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2011/...224298498225.html
ILP ist zu retten, unter welchen Bedingungen muss sich rausstellen, in erster Linie...wie hoch wird am Ende der Staatsanteil sein und was ist nun tatsächlich für die Versicherungssparte zu erzielen.
Der erzwungene Verkauf der Versicherungssparte, die ja profitabel läuft, ist eine Schande, der ausgewiesene zusätzliche Kapitalbedarf für alle Irischen Kreditinstitute völlig überzogen, aber die Würfel sind gefallen.
Interessant wird auch ob der Staat für mögliche einlagen überproportional an der Gesamtmasse von ILP profitieren wird, das erinnert irgendwie an räuberische Erpressung, aber es wird was für uns übrig bleiben, was mehr wert ist, als es der momentane Kurs suggeriert.
MFG
Chali
schleift herbei, das schrecklich Beile
Ohgottogott...wie all in Hassen
mit seiner schwarzen Zipfelkappe
mir graust und schauderts, halt doch ein!!
Mit langen Schritten immer weiter,
dem Richtplatz näher, alle schreiin
Nur des Königs tapferen Reiter
hoch zu Ross durch alle Gassen
galoppierend treffen ein,
am diesem furchteregenden Platze,
wo sogar die Ratten schweign.
Schon ist der Wagen, forgeschoben
knarrend, ächzend seinen Lauf
begleitet nur vom wimmern und klagen
der armen Seelen letztes Wort
Hinauf, hinauf schreit nun der König
im Glanze seiner grossen Macht
werden nun die jämmerlichen Gestalten
nah dem Richtpflock dargebracht
Keiner hat es wissen wollen was in Dublin
hinter Mauern, gross beschlossen,
dass nun Aderlass gar streng befohlen
Wohl den Irland Volksgenossen
ärmlich da, die Aktionäre,
wurden doch vom Staat bestohlen!
Nun blitzt das Beile in die Menge
wehklagend, schreiend dieser Pöbel
warten auf die grausige Tat
Wie der König wohl entscheiden mag?
Sprechen Gnad und Milde aus seinem Munde
oder garstig harte Worte
Keiner weiss was kommen mag
So steht man stille in der Runde
und wartet auf den jüngsten Tag..!
eine hommage an den grossen Dichter
Chalifmann3 geschrieben vom Grafen bigbang von Schaumburg.
Bei solchen Teilen soll man Totalverlust mit einrechnen und nicht darüber erstaunt sein, wenns man 50% oder noch mehr runter geht ;-
Bin auch seit 0,129 drinnen...Ich habe das aber als Zockerwert deklariert...also...nicht aufregen. Und wer sein Geld brauchen hätte können zum Haus bauen, der hat eh einen Fehler, in solche Werte zu investieren.. ;-))
MFG
Chali
Bin ja nicht drin, aber da überlegt man echt ob man einsteigen soll!! Wenn die natürlich Pleite sind oder verstaatlicht werden, dann macht der Abverkauf Sinn, andernfalls nicht, oder?