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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaInternet Capital hält 50% an Channelintelligence

 
  
    #251
20.05.10 11:00
Channelintelligence sind u.a. auch der Präsentation in 250, die man sich einmal genauer durchlesen sollte. Über die Erlöse wir aus dieser Präsentation und dem Bericht über 2009, dass diese in 2009 zwischen 20 und 30 Millionen gelegen haben. Das ist zwar eine sehr ungenaue Angabe, aber besser als gar nichts. Ursache für diese ungenaue Angabe dürfte sein, dass man als  private Company nicht exakt nach GAAP vorgehen muss und mit der ermittelten exakten Umsatzgröße nicht den Eindruck einer GAAP-Bilanzierung hinterlassen will.

About Channelintelligence:

• Leading provider of performance advertising services for manufacturers and retailers

• Reported Q1 revenue growth of 38% compared to Q1 2009
– revenue gain fueled by success of retailers driving channel sales efforts through CI’s Managed Services platform

• Ad spend by CI on behalf of retailer clients increased 30% over 2009 period

• CI spend management fees increased over 100% over 2009 period

• Added to impressive customer list in Q1
– JCPenney
– Large electronic gaming company

• Deeper integration at existing clients
– 3M
– Large technology company  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaInternet Capital hat Anteil an ICCommerce auf 76%

 
  
    #252
23.05.10 17:34
erhöht.

About ICGCommerce:

• Grew revenues to $22.9 million in Q1, an increase from $18.8 million in Q1 2009

• Q1 EBITDA of $2.6 million (excluding the impact of stock-based compensation and unusual items) slightly below $2.8 million for Q1 2009

• Cash and cash equivalents were $18.7 million at March 31, 2010

• Sales pipeline increased significantly

• Signed multi-year, multi-million dollar expansion with existing pharmaceutical sector client


Business Model Overview

• Multi-year contracts which are primarily fixed fee

• Strong recurring revenue model backed by TCV backlog equal to 3x annual revenue

• Delivering 130% of savings targets

Compare the numbers with the income-statement of Open Table, which has a market-cap yesterday of 986 million:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=open  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaInternet Capital ist hervorragend positioniert

 
  
    #253
26.05.10 22:33
http://seekingalpha.com/article/...tioned-for-a-comeback?source=yahoo

Natürlich sollte man nicht von alten Höhen von $4.280 spinnen nachdem man um mehr als den Faktor "tausend" auf $3,40 abgekackt ist, aber ich bin durchaus auch mit zunächst $20 und längerfristig $40 zufrieden, denn dann ich hatte mein Kapital bei einem Einstieg in sehr vielen Schritten zwischen vier und sieben Dollar vervielfacht - und fast ausschließlich steuerfrei.  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaDer Preis der Einzelteile ist wesentlich

 
  
    #254
27.05.10 11:26

63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaInsofern ist Internet Capital auch der wesentlich

 
  
    #255
30.05.10 13:20
bessere "Berkuboator":

http://www.fool.com/investing/high-growth/2010/05/...tech-startu.aspx

Denn jemand der Internet Capital imitieren will, verfügt beim Neustart nicht über den Know How. Hinzu kommt, dass man bei Internet Capital momentan auf den Inventarwert der Assets einen Discount von 60% eingeräumt bekommt, während ein Neuling mit 100% startet. Bei der momentanen niedrigen Bewertung von Internet Capital wäre ein Investment in das oben beschriebene Anlagevehikel hinausgeschmissenes Geld.  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaWas die Zukunft bringt

 
  
    #256
01.06.10 00:17
Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Van Rhee with Craig Hallum.


Jeff Van Rhee - Craig Hallum

Congrats on getting the increased stake in ICG Commerce. It's great to see it. Several questions, may be first, Buck, can you just take again very high level but as you look at the company you certainly been through a pretty meaningful transition already as you become more of a focused stake operating type company. If you look out 18 months if that’s a reasonable timeframe, at this point, what you think is a reasonable expectation of what the portfolio looks like in 18 months in terms of the number of companies, the number of the consolidated stakes versus the remaining positions, how quickly you might be able to liquidate some of those? Just give us an update is to what 18 months out might look like?


Walter Buckley

That's a good question, Jeff and I think just with one caveat that, that a lot of this is outside our complete control but I think 18 months we'd like to have probably double the number of top-line companies regarding our portfolio today, either from existing companies in the portfolio or from new acquisitions that we'd like to monetize, in addition one or two of our current portfolio companies. Monetize meaning, unlocking value in a number of ways, so I wouldn’t just want to, it could be a merger, could be a sale, could be an IPO.


http://seekingalpha.com/article/...transcript?source=yahoo&page=5  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaInternet Capital hält inzwischen

 
  
    #257
01.06.10 11:16

63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaUnd noch etwas zur 76%-Beteiligung

 
  
    #258
03.06.10 00:25

63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaFair Value von 936 Millionen

 
  
    #259
05.06.10 13:11
bietet momentan Chance für Kursverdreifachung:

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/...p;mid=264355&tof=1&frt=2  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaArbeiten mit Channelintelligence

 
  
    #260
08.06.10 00:13
http://www.internetretailer.com/2010/06/02/...pproach-data-feeds-pays


Internet Capital hält 50% an Channelintelligence.  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaRosige Zeiten für alle, die gern etwas umsonst

 
  
    #261
08.06.10 00:26
haben:

Die momentane Marktkapitalisierung wird alleine durch die 76% an ICGCommerce abgedeckt. Die restlichen 10 der 11 privaten Beteiligungen neben ICGCommerce gibt es umsonst, ebenso ca. 75 Millionen Cash/Wertpapiere.  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaDaher: Strong buy

 
  
    #262
09.06.10 15:45

63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaOb ein KGV von 2 angemessen ist,

 
  
    #263
11.06.10 00:21
darüber sollte man schon einmal nachdenken:

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/...;mid=264355&tof=14&frt=2  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaInternet Capital hält 36% an Starcite

 
  
    #264
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15.06.10 21:01

63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaInternet Capital hält 31% an Freeborders

 
  
    #265
20.06.10 20:25

63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaDie Präsentation zur Hauptversammlung

 
  
    #266
21.06.10 22:56

63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaEine gute Entscheidung

 
  
    #267
02.07.10 13:10
Form 8-K for INTERNET CAPITAL GROUP INC


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1-Jul-2010

Other Events



Item 8.01. Other Events
On July 1, 2010, ICG Holdings, Inc. ("ICG Holdings"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Internet Capital Group, Inc. ("ICG"), acquired additional shares of capital stock of its existing partner company, ICG Commerce Holdings, Inc. ("ICG Commerce"). The aggregate cash consideration paid for these shares, which represent approximately 5% of ICG Commerce, was approximately $14.4 million. As a result of this transaction, ICG Holdings increased its ownership interest in ICG Commerce from approximately 76% to approximately 81%.

ICG Holdings acquired the additional ICG Commerce shares pursuant to a tender offer that ICG Holdings made to all of the stockholders of ICG Commerce other than ICG Commerce employees and the holders of ICG Commerce's Series F Preferred Stock. Mr. Douglas Alexander, ICG's President, holds a limited partnership interest in a partnership that tendered its shares to ICG Holdings. Dr. Thomas P. Gerrity, a director of ICG, tendered shares of ICG Commerce that he held directly. Each of Mr. Alexander and Dr. Gerrity received less than 5% of the aggregate cash consideration paid by ICG Holdings in the tender offer.

In light of the ICG Commerce interests held by Mr. Alexander and Dr. Gerrity, an independent committee of disinterested independent directors of the ICG Board of Directors (the "Special Committee") considered and approved the terms of the tender offer, including the extension of the offer to ICG Commerce stockholders that are directly and indirectly affiliated with ICG. The Special Committee received advice from independent legal counsel and financial advisers. The consideration offered for shares of ICG Commerce in the tender offer was based on a valuation of ICG Commerce that was negotiated by ICG Holdings and a third party on an arms' length basis in connection with ICG Holdings' acquisition of approximately 12% of ICG Commerce that was previously announced on May 6, 2010.  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaDie nexten Monetarisierungen stehen vor der Tür

 
  
    #268
03.07.10 23:43

63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaWarum Starcite wachsen wird

 
  
    #269
04.07.10 08:24

63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaBeim Monetarisieren hat Internet Capital

 
  
    #270
05.07.10 11:22
einige Zeit pausiert bzw. die Neukäufe aus vorhandenen Aktienbeständen vor allem bei Blackboard finanziert.

http://www.icg.com/entrepreneurs/case-studies/

Jetzt dürften neue Monetarisierungen anstehen - wenn vielleicht auch "nur" dadurch, dass wie bei Blackboard jederzeit verwertbare Aktien zur Verfügung stehen.  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaAuf diesem Sektor ist Internet Capital

 
  
    #271
1
07.07.10 17:02
insbesondere mit Channelintelligence hervorragend positioniert:

www.channelintelligence.com

Internet Capital hält 50% an Channelintelligence.  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaExzellente Fundamentals und extreme Unterbewertung

 
  
    #272
08.07.10 09:13
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/...p;mid=264620&tof=1&frt=1

Es lohnt sich den kompletten Thread zu lesen.  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaWas mich interessieren würde ist, wer trotz

 
  
    #273
08.07.10 09:40
dieser extremen Unterbewertung verkauft.  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaDie Mühlen mahlen langsamer

 
  
    #274
11.07.10 00:41
als Opa Haub glaubt, aber sie mahlen - und vor allem auch für die Beteiligungen von Internet Capital.

http://www.ftd.de/unternehmen/...lehrling-des-internets/50141081.html  

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63238 Postings, 7262 Tage LibudaAllein die 81% Beteiligung an ICGCommerce

 
  
    #275
11.07.10 14:42
sind mehr wert als die Marktkapitalisierung von Internet Capital. Die anderen der 10 von 11 privaten Beteiligungen neben den 81% an ICGCommerce und die Cash/Wertpapiere gibt es dann noch gratis dazu

Compare ICGCommcerce with Ariba with a market-cap of 1.53 billion:

Ariba, Inc.(NasdaqGS: ARBA)
Real-Time: 17.61 0.71 (4.20%) 1:15PM EDT

Last Trade: 17.60
Trade Time: 1:02PM EDT
Change: 0.70 (4.14%)
Prev Close: 16.90
Open: 16.91
Bid: 17.60 x 100
Ask: 17.61 x 500
1y Target Est: 17.11
Day's Range: 16.88 - 17.65
52wk Range: 8.27 - 17.89
Volume: 886,128
Avg Vol (3m): 995,792
Market Cap: 1.53B
P/E (ttm): 86.38
EPS (ttm): 0.20
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A


Take a look at the revenues of Ariba and the growth of revenues by Ariba:

Income Statement Get Income Statement for:


View: Annual Data | Quarterly Data All numbers in thousands
Period Ending Mar 31, 2010 Dec 31, 2009 Sep 30, 2009 Jun 30, 2009
Total Revenue 87,130 85,671 84,318 83,874


Compare now the revenues and the revenues growth of ICGCommerce:

ICG Commerce, one of our core consolidated companies, grew its revenue to $22.9 million in the first quarter, an increase from $18.8 million during the first quarter of 2009. ICG Commerce’s EBITDA, excluding the impact of stock-based compensation and unusual items, was $2.6 million in the first quarter, slightly below $2.8 million in the comparable 2009 period. ICG Commerce’s cash and cash equivalents were $18.7 million at March 31, 2010.


The result: Revenues of ICGCommcerce are about 25% of the revenues of Ariba, but the growth-rate of the revenues of ICGCommcere is bigger.

And now do your math: 25% of the market-cap of Ariba of 1.53 million = 382 million value for ICGCommerce.

Internet Capital is owning 81% of ICGCommerce = 310 million for this ownership alone. This 310 million are higher than the complete market-cap of Internet Capital - free of charge are the ownerships in Metastorm, Starcite, Freeborders, Channelintelligence, Whitefence, Govdelivery, Investorforce, Clickequations, Seapass and Aquirgy and additional the cash/securities.  

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