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Most discussion about this reality lead back to Panguna, where the copper mine that provided decades of employment, business development, education and social opportunity now lies dormant.
Awakening this sleeping giant promises an early start to new income for the region and its people.
Although a re-start to mining and production of copper and gold could not be expected before 2020 or thereabouts, early work will generate employment and contractor opportunities.
Just as important as allowing people to make an informed choice about re-starting a large mining operation at Panguna, is the need to manage expectations.
Bougainville Copper Limited, President Momis’ preferred choice as operator of a re-started mine, is making it clear to stakeholders that the economics of opening up Panguna for a second life are not assured.
There are many unknowns to be “de-risked”, as mining economists like to say.
These include the future prices of copper and gold, Bougainvilleans’ expectations about compensation and remediation, and the cost of borrowing a massive $US 5 billion to develop and equip a mine which, over 20 years of dormancy has been stripped bare of much previous infrastructure.
So the second stream of information provided to Bougainvilleans flows from BCL through statements made at annual meetings and relayed to shareholders and through a review process known as an ‘Order of Magnitude Study’.
This document, carefully and expensively researched, attempts to convey a picture of what a new Panguna might look like, how long its mining life could be, how many men and women might be employed, what civic and social infrastructure could be developed around the mine and its surroundings, how waste rock and tailings could be managed in the modern era and many other considerations.
Opening the Order of Magnitude Study to relevant parties as an information document, BCL chairman Peter Taylor was at pains to make stakeholders aware of the factors still to be determined and the great amount of work still needed before any decision to re-start the mine can be taken.
“I emphasise the study has a degree of accuracy of plus or minus 30% and is not a substitute for the far more detailed bankable feasibility study that will be needed to support redevelopment,” Mr Taylor said.
“It is not intended to undertake additional and costly work until an agreement that permits profitable re-development is reached with landowners and governments.
“There are also complex tax, compensation and social issues that need to be resolved before development can proceed.
“The capital cost is high at US$5.2 billion but it has been assumed that most mine site facilities will need to be replaced.
“This will be reassessed once mine access is available.
“As previously made clear, the project is very dependent on robust long term metal prices,” Mr Taylor said.
So it is not only Bougainvilleans who have informed decisions to make regarding the future. BCL has to do some hard thinking also."
Ja, das scheint auch sehr realistisch zu sein, weil sich offensichtlich diese Prioritäten langsam durchsetzen:
Zuerst die Unabhängigkeit, dann die Wiedereröffnung.
Viel Zeit also zum Nachkaufen.
Und der richtige Zeitpunkt, um sich wieder schlafen zu legen, um in 2 oder 3 Jahren wieder vorbeizuschauen.
Der Kurs wird schon weit vor der Produktionsaufnahme wieder anspringen!
Bougainville MP wants to scrap mining, focus on agriculture
Quelle: Radio New Zealand/PNG Mine Watch, 21.10.2013
The Papua New Guinea national MP for central Bougainville, Jimmy Miningtoro, wants the province to emulate New Zealand and put the focus on agriculture to develop its economy.
The provincial government, and many other groups in Bougainville, want to re-start mining, but Mr Miningtoro, who comes from the area where the controversial Panguna mine is located, says mining is not the answer to the province’s economic woes. He says the people do not want mining and the province lacks the capacity to deal with it.
Instead he wants a concentration on agriculture and says New Zealand is a country that has succeeded by following this route.
"I don’t think in New Zealand that you have a very big mining industry. You have an agriculture industry. So if we develop proper agriculture systems, bring cash crops that can meet international needs then we can be able to sustain our economy. Now I don’t see the future here for mining activity at this point in time.”
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joshuaGEN, 21.10.2013, 10:11 am:
Thank you Mr Miningtoro. At least somebody is thinking straight and long term as well as inclusive – agriculture if harnessed properly can be the ‘thing’ for Bougainville. With it’s rich volcanic soils, it can reap a lot of benefits. Looking at New Zealand is the way to go. I hope more Bougainville MPs also come to their ‘sense’.
Axel G. Sturm - President of ESBC, 21.10.2013,12:12 pm:
Laugh out loud! Radio New Zealand International is taking the mickey of PNG MP Jimmy Miringtoro! The RNZI Network calls him “Miningtoro” what means “mining bull”! Mining bull, an excellent nickname for a politician who – unfortunately – spoke out a lot of “bullshit” during the past weeks! “Miningtoro” is simply undermining Bougainville’s independence . that’s all !
Dave Nani, 22.10.2013, 6:35 am:
When will you greedy foreign capitalists learn? If you come onto OUR land, abuse our leaders, and rape our earth, we will frog march you the **** out of our island and kick you back to your tax havens. Go ruin someone else’s country – like say, your own.
Hon. Jimmy Miringtoro, MP, 23.10.2013,10:20 am:
Axel Sturm, I am terribly sorry to have destroyed your dreams and plans to re-open Panguna mine which of course is our ticket to empty Independence like the one PNG got back in 1975. By the way I hope you realize now that you are history. Your company was routed out of the Bougainville because they stuffed up big time when they were given the chance. Even now and there has not been any change of attitude by them. You hold a view that Bougainvilleans are stupid and you can sell them lies about mining and independence. What makes you think you are the big messiah who is going to grant independence to Bougainville? Equating mining with independence is a poor ploy which will only work for those like you who are think of else but mining and money. What do you care about the people? Its like saying money equates happiness. The way you express yourself here only shows that you are an ignorant and arrogant person who does not care what happens after you have gotten what you wanted out of Bougainville. Get this into your head my dear sir, We will only open mining if we want to and when we want to. Not when you tell us to and we will deal with who we want and it most probably won’t with your people. We will not entertain oppressive mining bill by ABG which favours you and not us.
Hon. Jimmy Miringtoro, MP, 23.10.2013, 3:16 pm:
Thank you Mr. Sturm for your intelligent outbursts. I refrain from making any further comments because I have no time for people who use threatening and abusive language. All is not lost though, I am sure there many other places that have minerals 6 feet and down or even nearer the surface if you look carefully. I recommend “google search” if not a Chinese metal detector.
http://ramumine.wordpress.com/2013/10/21/bougainville-mp-wan…
...den zweit letzten und den letzten Beitrag liest fragt man sich wirklich was hier bezweckt wird.
Ich gehe mal davon aus das genügend Rückhalt in der betroffenen Bevölkerung (Zentral Bougainville) für die hier favoritisierte Lösung ´agriculture industrie´ mit all den bekannten Auswirkungen auf die Umwelt besteht.
Wo schließt denn das eine das andere aus ??????
Warum denn ein nein zu re-opening Panguna????
Um solche Äusserungern ernst nehmen zu können müßten nach meiner Meinung in dem geführten Interview doch
Argumente zu lesen sein in welchen Bereichen die ´mining industrie´ Auswirkungen auf die
Vision einer ´agriculture industrie´ hat. ;-)))))
Oder wie soll man das no verstehen ????
Das ist doch nicht schwer zu verstehen - oder. Also ist der Lokalpolitiker gegen kontrollierten Bergbau - im Sinne seiner Wahlstimmen.
Aber das ist kein echtes Problem - nicht wahr? De Regierung weiss das.
Und wenn meine Prognose stimmt - bekommen wir weltweit doch sowieso eine sehr schwere "Zwischendepression", in der der "Kleinabbau" weniger interessant wird, Entwicklungsgelder gestoppt werden - die Regierung dringend andere Quellen sucht -
und damit der Bergbau losgehen kann - oder Bougainville doch wieder eine kleine Provinz von PNG wird. Ganz wie die Menschen in Bougainville das entscheiden - bis China handelt.
"Mining bull, an excellent nickname for a politician who – unfortunately – spoke out a lot of “bullshit” during the past weeks!"
Zitat Ende
Das kann doch wohl nicht wahr sein. Ist Axel jetzt von allen guten Geistern verlassen?
So kann man sich doch nicht äußern, wenn man seine/unsere Interessen vertreten will!
Diver
das bild des reichen kapitalisten aus europa abgegeben
und der bevölkerung gezeigt, dass uns angeblich ihre
interessen nicht interessieren.
gut dass ich mich gegen eine mitgliedschaft im esbc
entschieden habe........ aber auf die mail von herrn sturm hin,
wenn ich bezahle, dann würde er auch mit mir reden (skypen).....
war es eh für mich klar, dort nicht mitzumachen.
Bei der Bevölkerung von Bougainville ein vielleicht nicht bekanntes Thema wäre eine gesicherte Altersversorgung für Mitarbeiter von BOC in der "Rente".
Ich vermute derzeit in Bougainville keinerlei Pensionsgeldanspruch. Also im Alter Almosenempfänger bzw. Versorgung durch die Kinder / Verwandtschaft.
BOC sollte in die Verhandlungen zur Wiedereröffnung einbeziehen, dass man als Mitarbeiter von BOC im Alter einen Anspruch auf eine Pension haben würde.
Auch wäre das durch BOC eine Initialzündung für ein Pensionssystem auf Bougainville.
Sehe ich das richtig so?
Vielleicht können wir weiter Argumente pro mining für die Bevölkerung zusammentragen.
Gute Ratschläge brauchen die von uns Europäern wirklich nicht, zumal egal was man sagt, eh alles in den falschen Hals kommt. Wir sollten hier nicht als besserwisserische Missionäre aufzutreten, denen man immer auch bei gutgemeinten Vorschlägen vorhalten kann, es ginge ihnen nur ums Geld.
Von daher kann ich nur allen raten sich rauszuhalten und die Klappe zu halten. Momis und BOC ziehen an einem Strang und machen schon das Richtige.
"That is exactly how we"ve anticipated it to be all along with the revenue from the mine.
sonst hätte er neulich in dem schicken Hotel in Singapur seinem
Gesprächspartner den Sinn des Auspruchs näher gebracht.
From PNG Attitude:
25 October 2013
The scum that they call politicians in PNG
PHIL FITZPATRICK
LET’S NOT MINCE WORDS. The politicians of Papua New Guinea are an international disgrace and the Papua New Guinea parliament is one of the biggest cabals of thieves, robbers and rogues on the planet.
If you add up the completely unnecessary deaths and injuries in Papua New Guinea attributable to a dysfunctional health system and moribund hospitals, not to mention the horrendous infant mortality rate.
And add to this realities like the number of victims of violent crime due to the lack of law and order, successive Papua New Guineans prime ministers, with no exceptions, can well be equated to tin pot dictators like Idi Amin of 1960’s Congo infamy who was responsible for the genocide of his people.
These egomaniacs are also responsible for the nepotism, dishonesty, inefficiencies and downright stupidity which are defining characteristics of the Papua New Guinea public service.
When they have finished selling off all the countries’ resources to the global multinationals and shonky and rapacious Asian businessmen they will have completed the total destruction of a nation which once had such enormous potential for the welfare of its people.
One of the most incredible aspects of much of this is that the Papua New Guinean public not only meekly stands by while it is all happening but, time after time, vote for these disgusting individuals and return them to power. Their lunacy is absolutely mind-boggling.
And PNG’s good mate Australia, through its successive and gutless governments, has aided and abetted the process by feeding vast amounts of its taxpayers’ money into this abysmal pit without the slightest hint of concern.
In human terms what it has done it has been akin to feeding a drug addict with free and unlimited amounts of heroin.
So what has brought on this vitriolic assessment? I’ll tell you!
It is my absolute disgust that a man of unusual and scintillating intellect, who I like to think of as a friend and fellow writer, has been reduced to the ignominy of having to accept charity from his friends to alleviate his unimaginable pain and mental torment that is, as far as I can see, no fault of his own and which has unnecessarily killed nearly a dozen of his fellow patients.
If that can happen to an articulate and educated man in a country then it surely tells us that that poor country is one very sick puppy.
And for those uneducated, inarticulate and illiterate souls in similar circumstances of dire pain and need all over the country my heart bleeds.
One can only hope that if there is an afterlife and a judgement and a hell for the evil ones that those arseholes who claim to run Papua New Guinea will be put through the same pain and anguish as our good friend the writer.
May their god have no mercy on their pitiful souls!
Hier muss geredet werden und eine Lösung her.
VG
Es muss geredet werden und eine Lösung her.
Aber wie klingt es in den Ohren der Insulaner, wenn reiche
weiße Europäer ihre Führungspersönlichkeiten beschimpfen?
Sachlich richtig oder nicht, der Ton macht die Musik.
Die Methodik von BCL bringt uns unserem Ziel in Trippelschritten näher.
Die Attacken des ESBC-Präsidenten wirft uns womöglich um Jahre zurück
oder gar komplett aus dem Rennen.
Würde mich interressieren, was die ESBC-Mitglieder vom Gebaren
ihres Präsidenten halten.
Vergeht doch die Zeit, ohne dass sich etwas tut und da ist es schon verständlich, wenn einem der Geduldsfaden reißt.
Immerhin war es doch auch Axel, der unendlich viel recherchiert und auch gereist ist, um uns alle über die Website mit Informationen zu versorgen.
Dies alles darf nicht unberücksichtigt bleiben.
Auch für mich ist die Entwicklung auf Bougainville bedrückend, insbesondere wenn ich mir den Wertverlust der Anteile an BCL so anschaue.
Aber jetzt einen Verlust hinzunehme ist ebenfalls sehr schwer. Letztlich sind uns allen doch "die Hände gebunden", was die Entwicklung auf Bougainville anbetrifft. Wir sind letztlich "verdammt" dazu, nur zuzuschauen. Eine zumindest geringe Einflussnahme kann uns nur gelingen, wenn wir nicht wie ein "Hühnerhaufen" gegeneinander "gackern".
So Long!
http://bcl.com.pg/
....kommt seit gestern die Fehlermeldung :Error establishing a database connection.
Wird denn die Seite wieder umgebaut ?
#17673 finde ich auch. Außerdem kämpft hier jemand mit offenem Visier was ja auch nicht so der Standard ist. Respekt. ;-))))
When will you greedy foreign capitalists learn? If you come onto OUR land, abuse our leaders, and rape our earth, we will frog march you the **** out of our island and kick you back to your tax havens. Go ruin someone else’s country – like say, your own.
Axel G. Sturm
You remember me,I WILL DIG YOU UP WHERE THEY WILL BURY YOU AND GIVE YOUR BONES TO THE DOGS,,,YOU HAVE NO LAND THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU BY YOUR MOTHER ON YOUR BIRTH BED,,,DUMBASS…YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND.